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Anonymous 0x37a
said (3mo ago #2165 ✔️ ✔️ 95% ✖️ ✖️ ):

Should You Hide Your Power Level?

It's common in radical chan-derived internet circles to speak of "hiding your power level", meaning not letting the normies know just how much anime you watch, or just how nuanced your opinions of Hitler are. Its a sort of necessity to keep the tradition alive without immediately facing the social equivalent of martyrdom for your waifu at the hands of people who don't even have a waifu. But is it proper praxis?

The early Christians won because they were willing to be martyred. Sure the cost to the individual was high, but eventually the message people actually get is "wow these people must have something really special". Thus thanks to the sacrifice of the early weebs, we enjoy hard-won freedom to watch anime without fear.

But there's also something to be said for tactical ambiguity, not constantly broadcasting your existence and position to the enemy. Sometimes you actually are just behind enemy lines and you have to, for lack of a better term, hide your power level. The difference between courage and foolishness, cowardice and strategic prudence, is subtle and sometimes not knowable in advance of the outcome. It's a leap of faith.

There's a related idea often discussed in circles that are what I'll call the rational traditionalists. As rationalists or close enough to that, they don't believe in resurrection, incarnation of god-men, miracles and such. But as traditionalists they see and respect the immense social value of religion, which almost always seems to involve claims of supernatural authority. So a question arises: should they personally "convert" to a religion (especially latin mass catholicism, which has nearly cornered this market) and say the creed despite it being a lie for them, or should they not do so and forgoe the social benefits of membership in a religion? In other words, is it a good idea to fake belief for social expedience?

Someone pointed out that less rationalistically scrupulous people often actually do change their belief to match social expedience, as it makes the lie more seamless. Normies mostly do this seamlessly and unconsciously. But note that they are just that: normies. By being sloppy with instrumetality and belief, they lose the ability to maintain a high integrity independent worldview at all. I can expand on why I think that is if you're interested. Live players meanwhile tend to be notable for how weird and divergent their private beliefs actually are. I think this is not an accident: maintaining an independent high integrity worldview is a superpower.

I don't think the psychological danger from hiding your power level is quite as high as nerfing your internal ideological integrity, but when you hide your power level your public persona at least becomes something of a normie, and loses the intoxicating charisma of boldly independent belief that your "true" self could have. Living a psychological double life is a weakness. But maybe it's necessary in many cases.

The balance I strike is this: internal compromise is utterly unacceptable. You should never allow your beliefs to be influenced by anything but truth, never expedience. But then external compromise of some kind is necessary, if you don't want to end up like Socrates or Jesus (maybe you should?). But to ever lie or even to be too much of a normie publicly destroys your relationship to truth (thanks Kant) so in practice you probably want to have as much as possible of your power level bared openly, while retaining some tactical silence on the really hot button trigger issues. For me this means I'm not about to convert to a religion I can't honestly believe, but I'm also not going to tell you what I actually believe, though I often hint at it.

But a wise friend challenges me that this is contradictory. Maybe it is. A great someone came to me in a dream and asked me why I'm still hiding my power level. A wealthy friend demands that I go all out and lay my true philosophy down in public. What do you guys think is right here?

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Anonymous 0x37b
said (3mo ago #2166 ✔️ ✔️ 89% ✖️ ✖️ ), referenced by >>2169:

I think your wise friend is right to point at the contradiction, though I think it's closer to a paradox.

It's difficult for me to understand the point of rationality if it's not instrumental. This is how I evaluate whether I'm even being rational. It's how we evaluate decision theories for example.

Take Newcomb's Paradox. From the perspective of a causal decision theorist two boxer (which I really was at one point), the normies seem to be one boxing and winning the millions of dollars while I draw payoff matrices and expound on how my strategy is ~dominant~. But then I lose and after enough losing, I look at the rich normies and realize they know something I don't know and that I need to figure it out. I don't need to understand it in the same way they do, but I do need to get to an understanding that makes me one box. Perhaps I start by going through the motions, one boxing etc, and fill in the justification later.

Maybe the rat trads are doing something similar. And besides, why would we expect these spiritual truths to be easy to understand or articulate? If something is not articulable, does that mean it's fake? Is rationality tied to your ability to articulate or your ability to win?

I agree the psychological double life and fake beliefs are all damaging. I want to believe that truth shouldn't be tainted with consideration of benefits, but then I can't really define truth in any way that does not lead to it having material benefits.

Laying out your true philosophy in an anon forum is a good idea. In public in front of journalists and other evildoers? idk about that

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Anonymous 0x37c
said (3mo ago #2167 ✔️ ✔️ 83% ✖️ ✖️ ), referenced by >>2198:

As a heuristic, any decision that seems binary (should I hide) is mis-framed. The question is, what is the skillful way to live in full integrity?

I don't think living in full integrity necessitates constantly broadcasting all your beliefs out to the world. That is the way to audience capture and madness; if popularity broke a man like Jordan Peterson it could break you too.

In fact, people of high integrity seem to usually choose the opposite path: only reveal their beliefs to a small group of intimates. Not because they want to "hide" but because unusual beliefs require unusually large amounts of context to communicate well, and it's easy to communicate badly in a way that harms your own goals.

Monastic traditions usually follow this route. Even early Christianity followed it - Jesus started with the disciples after all, and they slowly converted others through 1-1 personal relationships, not broadcasting. Martin Luther did not follow this route, broadcasting his pamphlets all over Germany, and I'm not sure even he'd endorse the eventual fruits of the Reformation.

So maybe the question isn't whether to hide your power level but whether to disengage from relationships and discourse contexts that require you to be less than fully honest. via negativa: what can you remove?

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Anonymous 0x37d
said (3mo ago #2168 ✔️ ✔️ 78% ✖️ ✖️ ), referenced by >>2173:

I find discussions of pure faith meaningless. True faith urges you to take action, to look at the world and take responsibility for your part of it. Which neatly shows that 'hiding your power level' is beside the point.

If you know in your heart of hearts that you should discuss your faith openly or even proselytize, do that (or admit to yourself that you don't really believe).

If what your God demands of you could be hidden or explained away, think it over - maybe that's the way.

If you have to walk the treacherous path of false conversion and always pretend to believe something you don't, well, there are worse fates out there.

Be honest with yourself, firm in your belief, and even mistakes will become stepping stones on your path

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Anonymous 0x37a
said (3mo ago #2169 ✔️ ✔️ 89% ✖️ ✖️ ), referenced by >>2178 >>2194:

>>2166
I think you are misreading your analogy to Newcomb's paradox. It seems to CDT cultists *at first* that the one-boxers are doing something pragmatically irrational, but that is because CDT is actually wrong. The correct answer isn't pragmatic irrationality, but a better decision theory capable of representing the fact that there is one decision taking place which affects the history of the world in two places: the contents of the boxes, and the taking of the boxes. Once you represent it as one fact and not two, the correct decision falls out naturally. Victory is a consequence of improved rigor, not irrationality.

So the correct inference in the religion case would not be to be pragmatically irrational, but to actually study the problem with an open but rigorous mind. You claim the religious normies are winning. The normie answer then is to simply imitate their beliefs and actions without knowledge of causal structure. But again as in OP, this unthinking assimilation into a herd destroys your ability to think about what you are doing. A valid strategy sometimes, but existentially dependent on and vulnerable to the philosopher-ubermensch who actually has will-to-think. It's important to note that normies *in general* are getting fucked right now, and are actively subject to genocide precisely via their herd instinct. You think far enough to notice some religious people are evading the normie genocide, why not think further?

The path of thought suggests this to me: there is some causal reason why some of the religious are "winning". There is something they are doing, some information they have access to, that the secular normies don't. Here's my hypothesis: they take their worldview seriously and rigorously, they have notions of what they want which come not from imitation of what's on TV, but of great past cultures and great men who won in the way they want to win. They come together with others to maintain their tradition and rigorously study and apply this worldview in their lives.

Before surrendering to the anti-intellectual slop of imitative belief, have you considered doing any of that? Have you considered that the problem might be that rationality is not wrong, but socially and morally underdeveloped? I say no one has done the work that would make it possible for rationalists to win as a healthy human community, so they don't. It's not about "pragmatically" giving in to intellectual cowardice, but about actually doing the implied work.

>I can't really define truth in any way that does not lead to it having material benefits.

The key thing is to get rigorous about our standards of truth, and how truth leads to benefit. If your standard is "I believe whatever I believe will bring me benefit", do you see how this is doubly circular? On what basis do you believe that? By what worldview do you evaluate that benefit? What happens to those when you start allowing random write access to your belief structure in this unprincipled way?

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Anonymous 0x37f
said (3mo ago #2172 ✔️ ✔️ --- ✖️ ✖️ ), referenced by >>2174:

People reveal their power level when they speak, no?

There are a lot of similarities with 4chan speak: "waifu," "sofiechan" that I see from here on time to time

>> 2168

On the other hand, something about this author is artful

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Anonymous 0x37f
said (3mo ago #2173 ✔️ ✔️ --- ✖️ ✖️ ):

>>2168

Ah, I've revealed myself as not knowing how to quote properly.

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Anonymous 0x37a
said (3mo ago #2174 ✔️ ✔️ 89% ✖️ ✖️ ), referenced by >>2175:

>>2172
I am of course deliberately invoking the *chan tradition by using such language. It’s a choice. When i write or speak in other contexts, i hide that particular power level. But it does not reveal all.

But an anon elsewhere points out that hiding your power level or not isn't actually the problem we face. The problem is that we need to articulate our worldview at all, especially just to develop it in the first place. To write clearly is to think clearly says paul graham. Corollary: you dont actually have thoughts if you arent writing them. We suspect we have thoughts, because we feel and think things that no one says, but to actually develop those properly we need to be speaking and writing about them. Otherwise they languish and go nowhere. Hiding your power level is an excuse for not writing.

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Anonymous 0x37d
said (3mo ago #2175 ✔️ ✔️ --- ✖️ ✖️ ), referenced by >>2176:

>>2174
> To write clearly is to think clearly says paul graham. Corollary: you dont actually have thoughts if you arent writing them. We suspect we have thoughts, because we feel and think things that no one says, but to actually develop those properly we need to be speaking and writing about them.

Go through the list of historical figures you hold in high regard and check which of them compulsively wrote down their thoughts. Unless you are especially partial to scientists and philosophers/public intellectuals, you'll find that few of them did.

We should only take someone's advice if we want to emulate them. Paul Graham is sharp, but if you don't aspire to create a new Y Combinator, listening to him uncritically will lead you astray.

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Anonymous 0x37a
said (3mo ago #2176 ✔️ ✔️ --- ✖️ ✖️ ), referenced by >>2177:

>>2175
A great many historical figures did a great deal of writing and speaking, not all of it published. Napoleon, for example, was great partially because of how prolific he was (in letters and orders). Of course there are other kinds of greatness than greatness in thought and ideas. Not all great men are great men of ideas. I thought it was obvious that i meant specifically thought (philosophers, scientists, etc) when i advised writing.

But id be curious what you think you are doing with your illiteracy thats better than founding YC. (Even if we grant your dubious premise that founding YC equivalents is the accomplishment ceiling of writers)

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Anonymous 0x37d
said (3mo ago #2177 ✔️ ✔️ --- ✖️ ✖️ ):

>>2176
> A great many historical figures did a great deal of writing and speaking, not all of it published. Napoleon, for example, was great partially because of how prolific he was (in letters and orders).

To me it seems like a spurious correlation. We try really hard to find all writings done by those who accomplished much, or even worse, consider writers great because theirs are the only accounts that survived from time period.

Take Napoleon - we study him because he'd conquered Europe and made reforms in his Empire. I'd be very interested in any analysis of how successful generals and reformers are relative to how much they wrote (adjusted for their position - the higher you are in hierarchy, the more memos you have to write). Without such an analysis, we have to go with our gut feelings, and mine tells me that the effect of writing would be small.

> (Even if we grant your dubious premise that founding YC equivalents is the accomplishment ceiling of writers)

Obviously, you can accomplish anything _and_ write a lot. Again, without showing causation instead of correlation, I treat it like other popular advice - e.g. "if you want to accomplish anything, get up at 4 am".

> But id be curious what you think you are doing with your illiteracy thats better than founding YC.

If you are so eager to get personal: why do you waste your time writing instead of educating the new generation, making them inherit your ideas and try them in the real world? Or did you start the thread because revealing your power level might interfere with founding another YC?

As a gesture of good faith, I'll go first. I'm learning Chinese - ideas we have are product of social environments we frequent. Getting on the Chinese equivalent of Twitter would allow me to both generate new ideas and discard ones that worked only in the US/China.

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Anonymous 0x37c
said (3mo ago #2178 ✔️ ✔️ --- ✖️ ✖️ ), referenced by >>2181:

>>2169

I agree with you that we seek a deeper synthesis, but this kind of thinking might be a trap:

> Before surrendering to the anti-intellectual slop of imitative belief

William James hypothesized (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Will_to_Believe) that evidence for certain beliefs only becomes knowable once you have adopted the belief. I'm inclined to think this is true - imitative belief is actually more fundamental than reason. To understand the gym bro or the pious monk you must actually go to the gym and lift iron, or go to the monastery and meditate in silence for a year. Call it "provisional belief" if you prefer, but isn't all belief provisional?

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Anonymous 0x37a
said (3mo ago #2181 ✔️ ✔️ --- ✖️ ✖️ ):

>>2178
It is true that much evidence only falls into place once you're looking for it, even if you're sticking with strict Bayesian rules of evidence. This is one of the reasons it's hard to evaluate between worldviews. But nonetheless you can give a worldview a very fair shake in this way and still be unconvinced. What then? Seems to me you should not believe it. Treat your pre-rational intuitions with respect on pre-rational questions, as they are often the voice of God, so to speak (I should substantiate that...). Our challenge here is that there is nonetheless *something* that the other worldview is right about yours has not managed to figure out. (or more generally apparent benefit from frauding your beliefs). But again it seems to me that the virtuous path here is the path of integrity.

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Anonymous 0x384
said (3mo ago #2188 ✔️ ✔️ 82% ✖️ ✖️ ):

Jesus spoke in parables. If you asked him some ethical question, he'd tell you a story. He also reminds people not to cast pearls before swine. There is an art to telling the truth in a way that is maximally effective.

Note that he repeatedly tells the disciples things like this. He tells them that as they're proselytizing, if they go to a town and nobody wants to listen to them, move on to somewhere else. He tells them not to tell anybody he's the Messiah either.

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Anonymous 0x37b
said (3mo ago #2194 ✔️ ✔️ --- ✖️ ✖️ ), referenced by >>2196 >>2199:

>>2169

>Once you represent it as one fact and not two, the correct decision falls out naturally. Victory is a consequence of improved rigor, not irrationality.

I know we've veered off the original questions of hiding your power level to this, but I'm going to continue. I'm claiming that my non-articulated decision theory already gets me to one box (i.e. go to church and try to believe). I'd of course appreciate a properly fleshed out decision theory which is coherent and generalizable, but absent that, I'm still one boxing and still winning. I don't think it's mutually exclusive.

>It's important to note that normies *in general* are getting fucked right now, and are actively subject to genocide precisely via their herd instinct. You think far enough to notice some religious people are evading the normie genocide, why not think further?

Thinking is for brahmins

>Here's my hypothesis: they take their worldview seriously and rigorously, they have notions of what they want which come not from imitation of what's on TV, but of great past cultures and great men who won in the way they want to win. They come together with others to maintain their tradition and rigorously study and apply this worldview in their lives.

I doubt the vast majority of people at church are being rigorous. Perhaps the more healthy ones not getting genocided as fast are more rigorous?

>Before surrendering to the anti-intellectual slop of imitative belief, have you considered doing any of that?

What exactly do you mean by imitative belief in concrete terms? Does affirming Christian theology (Jesus is God, Jesus resurrected etc.) count?

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Anonymous 0x37a
said (3mo ago #2196 ✔️ ✔️ --- ✖️ ✖️ ):

>>2194

> What exactly do you mean by imitative belief in concrete terms?

“You are the average of your five closest friends” generalized to following whatever seems to be the fashion of the people you perceive to be successful.

> I doubt the vast majority of people at church are being rigorous.
Collectively, i mean. They have intellectual specialization and their actions do somewhat derive from their stated premises.

> Thinking is for brahmins

Fair enough.

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Anonymous 0x389
said (3mo ago #2198 ✔️ ✔️ 85% ✖️ ✖️ ), referenced by >>2199:

>>2167

> As a heuristic, any decision that seems binary (should I hide) is mis-framed. The question is, what is the skillful way to live in full integrity?

Great overall response. I think this is a great way too look at it. it is definitely possible to live true to your beliefs, you do not have to share your entire worldview when talking to people, and you don't have to talk to everyone (in depth). This next quote from you is a good reason why:

> In fact, people of high integrity seem to usually choose the opposite path: only reveal their beliefs to a small group of intimates. Not because they want to "hide" but because unusual beliefs require unusually large amounts of context to communicate well, and it's easy to communicate badly in a way that harms your own goals.

I cannot explain my worldview or position on things in a short amount of time. The 'normie' window of beliefs is on a entirely different building to the beliefs I hold. I cannot just say that I do not believe in democracy to someone without them needing a 30-45 minute explanation to understand why I say that and what I mean. They then are curious about how I want governments to work, and so on. There is so much friction that it can be painful to explain everything to someone who I know will not be receptive to the ideas or is not intellectually capable of holding them.

So when I discuss politics, my options and when I use them are:

- Discuss current events / ideas and my thoughts on them with a filter
(When I want to talk about things I like and hold beliefs on but others would not fully agree/understand)

The first one is mostly so I don't go insane and can still talk to people about things going on in the world, but I just choose my words carefully.
Example: "El Salvador is a very safe place after Bukele took care of the gangs terrorizing, extorting and murdering citizens."

- Explain my beliefs at length (I reserve this for close friends who I think might be interested in my thoughts and won't change their opinion of me)
Example: "The reason I think what Bukele did was okay, is because human rights do not actually exist, and I value the lives of innocents more than murderers."

- Talk freely and normally about things I am interested in or believe in without needing to explain underlying beliefs/worldviews (Reserved for twitter friends, conferences and events where there is common perspective)
Example: "America should have a Bukele where people are thrown in jail without trial, immigrants are deported en masse, and the president should essentially become the monarch."

I love the mutuals I've met and continue to meet. (I found my wife on twitter) The events that have a ton of interesting people are the best and I love making it to them. (And hosting some as well)

These three kind of are in ascending order of power, with the first being more somewhat bland and limited, and the last being what I prefer. The examples are just that, but there are different levels for each. All of them allow me to be truthful and share my ideas. I will never flat out lie, I would rather jump off into a volcano. I may choose my words with even more precision or try to find common ground with people, but I will not lie.

And like some have discussed in this thread, I am not afraid to talk about my faith in God, nor should I be. If you believe in God then "hiding your power level" is a sin. Not talking about stuff I follow or post about on Twitter is different than talking about Christ.

{I am glad thread writing is functional again, I missed discussion on here.}
Does anyone share my experiences? Do people have any conferences/events they recommend for this type of thing? I still haven't been to SF or LA.

I wish I could find stimulating discussion in person where I live, even one bar or club, but I cannot find such a thing.

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Anonymous 0x37a
said (3mo ago #2199 ✔️ ✔️ 84% ✖️ ✖️ ), referenced by >>2208:

>>2198
But anon isnt it more fun to just say shocking things to the normies and refuse to elaborate? In seriousness though your strategy is probably the right one and its what i do too.

Thanks for bringing up the lie question. I also never lie about my beliefs as much as i might be evasive occasionally. Lying is much more serious than merely hiding your power level and destroys your relationship to the truth and other people much worse. But i think self censorship as a habit has effects that are similar in kind but an order of magnitude or two less.

With respect to lying about belief in christ, obviously you would never do so if you did. And i would never do so either way. But the question in OP is about whether its acceptable for someone with serious doubts (ie not being able to say the entire nicean creed as an honest report of their own belief) to convert. My answer is no, if i cant belief report the creed i am not christian and will not pretend. But i see a lot of people converting with what looks like a lot less rigor than i am applying, like our “one boxer” boy upthread >>2194. To me this just looks like lies and unseriousness. Or if belief is genuinely being dictated as an act of submission to authority, it’s a mental architecture i am simply not subjectively familiar with. And one that seems recklessly insane and even blasphemous to me.

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Anonymous 0x37b
said (3mo ago #2208 ✔️ ✔️ --- ✖️ ✖️ ), referenced by >>2210:

>>2199

If I understand you correctly, you're saying it's fine to go through the motions of religion, but reporting your beliefs to be different than what they truly are or directly modifying your beliefs in order to gain the benefits of religion are both bad. If that's what you're saying, I agree on both counts. The first I consider to be lying (and therefore long term self harming) and the second I consider to be not possible.

I have found that many religious claims that were formerly inscrutable or seemed outright false to me I now understand and agree with in genuine belief. The way I got there was a combination of (spiritual?) experience and turning over the idea in my head trying in earnest to see how I can come to believe it. Is it possible for God to incarnate, can perfect spirit from above animate matter below? This to me is a theological question that has to be understood in spiritual terms not in scientific terms. The value is in the spiritual.

I don't know if Christianity allows for a symbolic understanding of the resurrection (or maybe it does, theological liberals get away with it). I don't think it's lying if you some times believe it literally, sometimes spiritually, sometimes symbolically and sometimes not at all. There is a reason we also pray "God help my unbelief".

My question to Anon#1 is this: would you go on believing in some scientific claim that you understand to be true even if it led to the destruction of you, your family and your nation? I consider this pathological and giving excessive deference to whatever computation you did in your head. I affirm truth, but I don't affirm my ability to figure it out through reason on a short time scale.

Another question to Anon#1: What are appropriate targets for taking the leap of faith? There are a large number of claims we are unable to prove this way or that, what principle restricts those? Why not take the leap of faith on the metaphysical claims of Christianity?

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Anonymous 0x37a
said (3mo ago #2210 ✔️ ✔️ 81% ✖️ ✖️ ):

>>2208
>would you go on believing in some scientific claim that you understand to be true even if it led to the destruction of you, your family and your nation?

I don't believe there is any such claim. I suppose if I had some exotic superhuman being threatening me to change one little belief I might consider it, but then I would suspect it was just messing with me or trying to disable me cheaply. But it's a moot point; like you I don't believe arbitrary belief change is possible. Why consider such hypotheticals?

>What are appropriate targets for taking the leap of faith?

Unironically whatever you vibe with and can't seem to escape through philosophy. Faith isn't a choice. On what basis would you make such a choice? It's something you are staked into by existential fact of the kind of perspective you have inherited through blood, tradition, and revelation. The point of the leap of faith idea is to recognize that you can't prove that your own perspective and life strategy will be successful or even coherently assign probabilities by any means other than making something up, so you can only live out the best version of it and stop worrying about it. The point is that different fundamental epistemologies can be valid for different people and communities as they pursue different speculative strategies.

Why not Christianity? Because in light of the thoroughly elegant scientific worldview which explains all solidly known phenomena without reference to anything other than lawful nature, I find the claims of supernatural miracles implausible. I find it more beautiful and plausible that God would create a world that works perfectly as it is, and not one that needs to be constantly fiddled to propagandize its inhabitants. Further, while it may have been at one point a counterintuitive necessity, I find Christian social-political morality outside of family matters and general prosociality to be hard to distinguish from bolshevism. Maybe someone can explain it better to me.

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