anon_mope said in #3369 1mo ago:
In the Evolution of Civilizations, Quigley models organizations in the following way: he argues that organizations have social missions, and they are called ‘instruments’ to the extent that organizations fulfill their social missions. However, if they stray from their mission and become ineffective due to organizational entropy, it leads to tension, tension that can be resolved 3 ways: reaction, reform, circumvention. This organizational entropy is called institutionalization, which shows up as vested interests, rigidity of procedure and loss of incentive. And ineffective organizations are called institutions as opposed to instruments.
Reaction is when vested interests succeed in keeping their privileges and the societal mission continues to be less and less effectively carried out over time, with chronic social tension. Reform is when the institution is re-constituted such that it becomes effective again. And circumvention is when a new effective organization is set up to fulfill the societal mission, while the old institution continues to operate in a relatively more ceremonial manner e.g. SpaceX vs NASA.
My addendum is a fourth possibility, in addition to reaction, reform & circumvention; there can be a liquidation. This is when vested interests lose control, the institution is broken apart, yet no effective replacement instrument emerges. The original institution disintegrates; the social need goes unmet; and the vacuum accelerates broader civilizational decline. This is when the vested interests fail to keep their privileges, but the reformers either fail, or else they don’t even attempt to reform, but just to destroy.
This is distinct from civilizational collapse. Under the Quigley model, entire civilizations can get stuck in a decay phase, after which an outsider force comes knock the whole thing down.
This possibility came to mind, as a result of some recent actions of the Trump administration. Like the rolled back ‘reciprocal’ tariffs, and like the attempt to cancel all foreign student visas at and scientific grants to Harvard. These actions, already either overruled by the courts or rolled back, can be thought of as failed attempts at liquidation. I was inspired by these actions to recognize the possibility of this failure mode of populism. Instead of reform you get a nihilist burn it down approach towards institutions that ought to be either reformed or circumvented. In other words a negative agenda, devoid of a positive partner.
However, liquidation need not necessarily arise out of populists full of resentment. Historical examples perhaps can include de-industrialization in the midwest, the outsourcing of factories led by financial engineer managers. It can also include failed attempts at genuine reforms like those attempted by the late soviet union.
Curious if other readers of Quigley’s Evolution of Civilizations have any feedback on this narrow addendum to Quigley.
Reaction is when vested interests succeed in keeping their privileges and the societal mission continues to be less and less effectively carried out over time, with chronic social tension. Reform is when the institution is re-constituted such that it becomes effective again. And circumvention is when a new effective organization is set up to fulfill the societal mission, while the old institution continues to operate in a relatively more ceremonial manner e.g. SpaceX vs NASA.
My addendum is a fourth possibility, in addition to reaction, reform & circumvention; there can be a liquidation. This is when vested interests lose control, the institution is broken apart, yet no effective replacement instrument emerges. The original institution disintegrates; the social need goes unmet; and the vacuum accelerates broader civilizational decline. This is when the vested interests fail to keep their privileges, but the reformers either fail, or else they don’t even attempt to reform, but just to destroy.
This is distinct from civilizational collapse. Under the Quigley model, entire civilizations can get stuck in a decay phase, after which an outsider force comes knock the whole thing down.
This possibility came to mind, as a result of some recent actions of the Trump administration. Like the rolled back ‘reciprocal’ tariffs, and like the attempt to cancel all foreign student visas at and scientific grants to Harvard. These actions, already either overruled by the courts or rolled back, can be thought of as failed attempts at liquidation. I was inspired by these actions to recognize the possibility of this failure mode of populism. Instead of reform you get a nihilist burn it down approach towards institutions that ought to be either reformed or circumvented. In other words a negative agenda, devoid of a positive partner.
However, liquidation need not necessarily arise out of populists full of resentment. Historical examples perhaps can include de-industrialization in the midwest, the outsourcing of factories led by financial engineer managers. It can also include failed attempts at genuine reforms like those attempted by the late soviet union.
Curious if other readers of Quigley’s Evolution of Civilizations have any feedback on this narrow addendum to Quigley.
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