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Who is Patient Zero?

anon_hupo said in #4395 6d ago: received

Let's trace where modern libtardation originates.

What do we mean by that? Which specific brain worm are we investigating?

It's not just utopian liberalism. That tendency is epitomized by the French Revolution, whose instigators declared Year Zero, renamed the months, and argued for a total abolition of all tradition and superstition.

Nor is it just High Modern statism with socialist characteristics. There was another thread a few weeks ago that conflated "gay race communism" with the program of men like FDR who, while leftist in certain ways, were not really interested in the "gay" or "race" part at all. (FDR deserves his own thread. He held the most extensive personal power of any man in US history, was president for 16 straight years. Inherited a 63% top tax rate and grew it to 94% -- near-total confiscation of all income above some threshold. Took everyone's gold at gunpoint and replaced it with paper.)

But back to the question. We are not talking about statism. We are searching, specifically, for the cultural and aesthetic origins of Gay Race Communism.

I submit to you that Patient Zero for GRC is a bizarre old Brit who lived at the turn of the 20th century. A man named Alistair Crowley.

> Born to rich religious fundamentalist parents
> Rebelled by starting a ritual magick cult
> Spent his life as a bisexual sex-pest "philosopher", foreshadowing Foucault by 50 years
> Invented his own retarded religion dedicated to libertine moral relativism.
> "Do What Thou Wilt shall be the whole of the law."
> Calls it "theosophy"
> Starts a "commune" (a single small villa in Sicily) with his "followers" who end up with "STDs"
> Has a kid named Nuit Ma Ahathoor Hecate Sappho Jezebel Lilith Crowley in 1904
> She dies at age 2 in Rangoon, Burma, of some tropical disease. Why were they in Burma? Why did Foucault go to Tunisia? Who can say?
> Sleeps around
> Wife becomes alcoholic. He has her committed.
> Uses his inherited British aristocracy wealth to bounce around Paris partying with artists and their patrons. This is why his ideas have Wikipedia pages today.

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> Crowley considered himself to be one of the outstanding figures of his time. The historian Ronald Hutton stated that in Crowley's youth, he was "a self-indulgent and flamboyant young man" who "set about a deliberate flouting and provocation of social and religious norms", while being shielded from an "outraged public opinion" by his inherited wealth. Hutton also described Crowley as having both an "unappeasable desire" to take control of any organisation that he belonged to, and "a tendency to quarrel savagely" with those who challenged him

Sound familiar, anon?

Let's trace where mo received

anon_hupo said in #4405 6d ago: received

Would you believe me if I told you that this oddly familiar slop was designed by a few theatre kids in the late 19th century? It predates the invention of the airplane. Its creators rode around in horse-drawn carriages.

Would it surprise you if I told you that their attitudes towards their parents, Western Civilization, race, gender and unprotected anal sex have not changed much in 120 years?

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anon_veje said in #4410 6d ago: received

Can someone define "gay race communism" as it's used now? I don't think Aleister Crowley works, but maybe it's my own misunderstanding. I think of it as somehow more moralistic, patronizing, infantilizing, and also sometimes rational, at least superficially, and humanistic (and, so, I might locate my patient zero in progressive evangelical movements of a few decades before Crowley). I don't see that in Crowley. He was a degenerate weirdo, but he strikes out on the race and communist stuff.

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anon_kwqa said in #4419 5d ago: received

>>4410

Gay race communism is a confluence of three mutually-reinforcing threads into a single braid, a challah as it were...

GAY - hedonistic narcissism; a rejection of beauty and fetishization of ugliness; drugs and butt sex. There is a direct line from Aleister Crowley, to the Beatniks he inspired ("I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix"), to the modern PReP aesthetic of state-funded Folsom Street Fair dog mask men peeing in each other's mouths. Aleister Crowley was just very early. Doing this stuff in the 1890s makes him a true pioneer.

RACE - ressentiment against the white European. What do you do with a group of men who are generally taller, smarter, whose grandparents built the modern world while your own grandparents were pulling potatoes, and who on top of all that tend to get more attractive women? It feels unfair. Unbalanced. You cling to the Blank Slate and other cope. The Last Shall Be First and the First Shall Be Last. You can draw a direct line from American Protestantism, to Civil Rights (led by a preacher) to modern Trans-Flag Episcopalian occupied government, Somali-importing religious charities and so on. The Race part of GRC is an evolution of Christianity, which has a 2000-year history of positioning itself as a religion of justice for the weak against the strong.

COMMUNISM - the High Modern bureaucratic state squashing excellence, cutting the tall poppies, and cultivating a power-base of client populations whose existence is funded by the state. Plus a healthy sprinkling of brutalist concrete block architecture. You can draw a direct line from FDR to the present. He provided the shock therapy; once you go to (94% tax rates, gold confiscation and Social Security), anything is possible.

See how well those fit together. What better way to soothe ressentiment than a little Economic Justice? What better client population than Somalis who are into butt sex? What better way to reject beauty and fetishize ugliness than race communism? "Be gay, do crimes," as they say.

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anon_sage said in #4454 2d ago: received

Hard to pick who patient zero is. But it seems the most prominent attribute to all of this is infantilisation. Crowley had the safety net of his families wealth to live out his childish fantasies. Quality of life has been good enough in the west allowing more and more losers not to grow up. These losers rebel and oppose anything they're not, making themselves unable to grow as a person. The "Gay" perpetuates their fantasy of equality and is a consistent manifestation derived from hedonism. "Space" represents fantasization, it's a distant enough concept to project said theories without any real world consequence. It also represents "progression", both metaphorical and physical. Finally, "Communism" aligns with everything said prior –– childish fantasy and the flatlining of society through equality.

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anon_witu said in #4456 2d ago: received

>>4419
This is a really idealist way of looking at things, there is no one person where ideas came to a confluence and they spread from there, there is no genealogy of morals or ideology which is not an ex post fabrication. Fundamentally all these things are the result of specific inventions of social technology that you're experiencing the byproduct of, ideas that matter not because of the beliefs associated with them because they created more effective systems than what they replaced. The superficial idealogies associated with these inventions are highly contingent in history.

With the hedonism and lack of responsibility of modern society you can only blame capitalist mass media/mass consumption, which fostures identities, addictions and narcissism through the flattery of catering to every market and the replacement of all personal relationships with relationships to commodities.

You bundle up a bunch of shit into the race category that has to be disentangled. Mass immigration is primarily a scheme to lower labor costs. If your problem is with slave morality as such, then one need only look at the psychopathy of societies that rejects it, likely Nazi Germany on modern Israel, to see why its preferable to the alternative.

As for communism, what you're describing predates it by a few decades, that is the state with the professionalized bureaucracy and military, which started under 19th century Prussia. This model was exported to the US, France and later the USSR and the rest of the world in the late 19th and early 20th century.

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anon_hupo said in #4466 2d ago: received

>>4454

> Quality of life has been good enough in the west allowing more and more losers not to grow up.

This feels correct. It's the "good times > weak men > bad times" meme.

And importantly, it's not just the obvious losers: we have weak "winners" too.

Boys require a certain minimum amount of conflict, hardship, and contact with reality in order to mature into men. This is why every successful society in history has had coming-of-age rituals involving those elements.

Once you understand it, you see it everywhere. Nerdy guys who are pathologically avoidant because they've never had to interact with people beyond ordering coffee. Lefty guys who are pathologically soy despite legible success because they managed to go from 0 to $300k a year TC without ever doing any face-to-face leadership, and without giving or receiving a single bit of direct accountability (beyond a soft "performance review" couched in therapy speak, a kind of adult report card). They "won" entirely within the longhouse on the longhouse's terms.

Many such cases. A fertile petri dish for political dysfunction.

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anon_vegu said in #4472 1d ago: received

This is an easy question.

Patient Zero is William Wordsworth.

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anon_hupo said in #4473 26h ago: received

>>4472
> married
> 6 kids
> “ Wordsworth's youthful political radicalism, unlike Coleridge's, never led him to rebel against his religious upbringing. He remarked in 1812 that he was willing to shed his blood for the established Church of England”

What is GRC about this guy?

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