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We can't keep living like this - murder of Iryna Zarutska

anon_wiwi said in #4400 6d ago: received

I'm very upset by this. I was reluctant to watch the un-edited video full video, but I did. We can't keep living like this.

> The black man saying "I got that white girl"
> The media twisting the story
> The judges that released him 14 times
> The other black people standing by not helping her and walking away
> The city preventing the video from coming out

I don’t want any of this to be true and prefer not to talk about it but they’ve created a situation where it’s inevitable.

What are the steps to making sure this doesn't happen again? Is it replacing the judges? I need concrete ideas on what to do.

Do I need to find ways to help police with new tech? Do I need to fundraise to replace a specific judge? Do I need to run for some office? Do I need to have a gun? I genuinely don't be to be fed posting, but I do need a plan and concrete ideas because I refuse to leave like this.

Moving to the country side is not an option. You can't run away from anarcho-tyranny race-communism. That will be giving them ground for them to get you later. And I promise you this disaster will keep following you to the country side. Leaving the US is not an option either.

What positions of power would be able to do something about this? We can get our guys in those positions of power and make changes.

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anon_wiwi said in #4401 6d ago: received

How broad is this hatred in the black community? honest question

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anon_wiwi said in #4402 6d ago: received

offering $500k in $10k grants to paint murals of the face of Iryna Zarutska in prominent US city locations

Please contact katie@eoghan.com for more details

https://x.com/eoghan/status/1965567989002240125

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xenophon said in #4403 6d ago: received

The general situation is of long standing. There's been plenty of elite-coddled, racially directed violence from the late 1960's and onward.

There's no need to panic and do random things, certainly nothing fed posty.

Some of the actions you mention are perfectly reasonable. Learn self-defense, including firearms? Sure. Get involved in local elections, including judges and other targeted offices? Sure. Another I'd add: learn about progressive race ideology in the West after World War II, culminating in Critical Race Theory.

Get energized and focused, but lose the agitation.

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anon_caly said in #4404 6d ago: received

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Never get triggered. You can do whatever you want, you can REDACTED a REDACTED, but never, ever get triggered

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anon_qusy said in #4406 5d ago: received

Avoid non-white neighborhoods as much as possible. Learn the basics of BJJ and boxing. Carry a gun and a knife in such situations. Don't be afraid of a fight, to fight dirty, and to kill. Be aware of your own limitations and abilities in this area. But mostly, cultivate networks of mature and informed friends. Discuss these concerns. Become involved in local politics and do what you can to protect communities.

But unless the USA goes full Bukele/Lee Kuan Yew on steroids, repeals the Civil Rights Act and Hart Cellar, restores freedom of association, followed by Bhutan style ethnic cleansing, racial resentment and attacks will continue.

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jewishman said in #4408 5d ago: received

It's not difficult to solve this problem. The state locates, as best they can, then incarcerates, treats, and houses violent schizophrenics. If a community is violent, then it can be put under strict supervision and lifted toward some level of modest prosperity, as much as they can be, in an appropriate way, against their will. The state prioritizes services for citizens and ensures they're safe and efficient, even if market logic pushes them in the opposite direction. The state matches cute, underweight Ukrainian immigrants with worthy mates (or, gosh, at least someone warns them about the realities of riding public transit through rough neighborhoods).

It seems like there's no clear electoral path at present towards this simple idea. Americans love freedom. They love capitalism.

You can vote for and fund a politician that will work to shut down public transit and replace it with a fleet of cars driven by third world proletarians (someday, robots). Maybe that's better! You can vote for and fund a politician who will work to keep some remnants of public transit to convert to another social welfare program, while levying superficially more draconian regulations on the car fleet. We can agree that's not better.

You can vote for a politician who will incarcerate more criminals, but he can't do much to address the sources of criminality. That might be an improvement. You can vote for a politician that promises to address the sources of criminality, but we already know they can't, or aren't incentivized to—and within their term in office, they will have to promise to lock up more violent offenders. So, let's not do that.

You might be able to find a politician that hates a specific community, but even if racism is good and natural, it's not particularly helpful when making policy in the United States. The anti-democratic future, with its safe public transit and schizophrenics behind bars, must be built with a multiracial coalition, in some form. You might be able to find a politician that claims to be working for a specific community, and who knows their problems, but, again, they're going to lack incentives, initiative, and expertise. I don't like the sounds of that, but it appeals to many people that don't think it's humane to lock up generations of the racialized underclass.

So, you need to come up with something novel. The good news is that everyone tacitly supports the necessary measures.

In the meantime, don't let your wives and daughters ride buses through rough neighborhoods. Keep your paranoia sharp.

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egon said in #4409 5d ago: received

> The good news is that everyone tacitly supports the necessary measures.

Unfortunately not. Take the Daniel Penny case. A clear-cut case of "necessary measures", carried out with a healthy amount of restraint, against a habitual violent criminal with 42 arrests. And still half the country was braying for his head.

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jewishman said in #4420 5d ago: received

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But that's a case of a concerned citizen unintentionally causing the death of a man. Still, he was found not guilty. If it hadn't gone down in Manhattan, if not for the racial angle, I don't know if charges would have been laid in the first place.

I think the bleeding hearts are right that mentally ill people should not be shunted into the criminal justice system. The treatment is cruel, but cycling them through jail numerous times, before they get locked up for something serious, or killed by police is also dangerous. It does seem like the co-responder model can work, but not until you solve that problem (they're going to be confined for observation, or booked on a petty charge). You need someone on the other end to accept the subject. I know that seriously expanding public services for the poor and mentally ill is not a winning issue with fundraisers. But I hope someone can rediscover the potential of this sort of thing—not consultation with community leaders, not giving cops a few hours' worth of mental health training, not coddling the disordered and dangerous, but firm action, backed by real resources.

Maybe that's naive. It's just a fantasy. I imagine spending a year in Charlotte, North Carolina would make me even more pessimistic.

In the meantime, support your local vigilante!

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gs said in #4424 5d ago: received

The best thing that you, personally, can do about this problem is to Just Be Racist.

This problem gets solved when the public becomes so overwhelmingly, virulently racist that government and institutions have no choice but to act, purely out of self-preservation.

We all already joke around online making racist jokes and "redpilled" observations under our anon accounts. Just start doing the same thing in real life. Be openly derogatory toward undesirable minority groups when among friends and family. Refuse to accept them as professional clients. Refuse to hire them. Sabotage others' attempts to hire them. Avoid patronizing their businesses. Be rude and cruel to them in public when possible. Directly or indirectly harm them when you can get away with it without consequences.

People have the "courage" to recognize this problem in private. But few have the courage to be even a little bit racist toward these hostile, worthless parasites in our midst when they're given ample opportunity to, even at zero personal cost to themselves. You have a Kantian Imperative to Be Racist. Go out there and Do Your Part.

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anon_wiwi said in #4425 5d ago: received

Black Lives Matter have responded to the Iryna Zarutska incident.

Posted yesterday. Sept 9th.

“Black people have a right to violence”

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anon_wiwi said in #4426 5d ago: received

I can’t stand this nigger

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anon_wiwi said in #4427 5d ago: received

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anon_caly said in #4431 5d ago: received

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>Americans love freedom. They love capitalism.

Americans never saw any contradiction between freedom and shooting feral blacks until the past couple of decades.

There's no organic, American "love of freedom" that applies to schizophrenics or Bantus. It's just a political project pushed by one small sector of elite society.

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jewishman said in #4433 4d ago: received

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It's not that I'm necessarily opposed to "shooting feral blacks." I'm skeptical. Even the police have had to be wary about that sort of thing for more than a few decades. You couldn't even beat the hell out them without a city getting torched. Extrajudicial violence against black criminals hasn't been widely tolerated in a century (Jim Crow laws saved more lives than the NAACP).

The political solution in America at present has to be a rainbow coalition that emphasizes care and restraint to cover for authoritarian excesses that will be forgiven in time. But I would suggest fleeing, personally, since that sounds terrifying.

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egon said in #4435 4d ago: received

> The political solution in America at present has to be a rainbow coalition
> But I would suggest fleeing, personally

We're not going anywhere. It's our country and ours to fix. I see an ocean of bad takes on this issue. Bad lefty takes. Bad rightist takes about public executions and Crossing the Rubicon and whatnot. Calm your tits.

This issue is highly solveable. We already know the solution. We've solved worse in the recent past... in the 1970s and 80s, the US had a much higher murder rate than today. Subways were dangerous.

What happened? In the 1990s: a comprehensive crime bill (nationwide) and Bratton-style policing (in NYC, emulated elsewhere). Mass incarceration works. What Steve Sailer calls "point-of-use gun control" works.

Above all, you need proactive policing. Petty shoplifting must result in a near-certain jail stint. Local cops known by name because you see them walking around. Schizos in public proactively removed and taken in for psych evaluation. Schizos who actually assault someone, removed from society.

If you have violent thugs running around on their "14th strike", you have a failed state. The inspector has handed you a report that says: your house has termites.

There is a clear majority that will support anyone who fixes this correctly. Bukele has 80% approval right now. Giuliani and Bratton were once two of the most loved figures in American politics. The crown is in the gutter.

Note that fixing it correctly requires TASTE and AESTHETIC COMPETENCE. People want to feel safe. People want to feel like adults are in charge again. People do not want a hoe-scaring extremist-occupied police state. People do not want tattoo cops with their faces hidden behind oakleys and gaiters. Study Bratton some more... calm, confident, meticulously professional in every interview. Wore a crisp blue uniform. Proactively shook down every gangbanger in NYC, ringing them up on gun charges till the remaining ones were scared to walk around packing.

Kept the subway schizo-free. Ran a disciplined force, cleaned up the city. That's the only way out. You must hire a professional, put up the plastic sheets and fumigate.

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anon_jyca said in #4445 3d ago: received

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>>4401
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This stuff is obviously totally unacceptable and evil. It's way too widespread in the "black community" (which is a failure of integration be definition). This mural stunt is a good thing to do. Better is to fund institutional power for our guys to work on these things systematically. I've tried to run operations with substantial budget to make room for serious thought on serious questions like this and we got approximately $0 of patronage support from "conservative" donors for it, with most of the money coming from liberals. Yes really.

I agree with this anon >>4403 that studying and popularizing the real history of this stuff is crucial. Also important: legal defense funds for guys like Penny, campaigns of journalism, NGOs that document the judges in question and support alternatives, etc. But has to be done systematically and institutionally.

I've been considering starting a fund to disburse money to useful projects, and study exactly what those projects should be. Maybe I should do that.

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This anon gets it.

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