The Hegelian alien

All agents have a geist that have a will to God (perfection) in order to acquire a whole and stable state. This includes even ideas who utilize conscious beings in order to be materialized and undergo an evolutionary process to reach their own perfection. So there is a mutualistic relationship between us and the realm of ideas, and these ideas are us in a way, a subsidiary of us like we are a subsidiary of the world Geist.

The process of knowing something and observing it and reflecting on it, then playing with the product is the road to all apotheosis. By treating something as a mere tool, we harm our true understanding of it. To treat something as a tool is to focus on one property of it, like a person’s wealth or looks. As such it’s necessary to have a flexible outlook on the things around us. Modern society I believe have taken some agency from us in this flexible mindset due to how capitalism efficiently creates good products that serve one particular purpose. This is a double edged sword however and we in turn are treated as mere products by capitalism that serve purpose and get discarded. How we choose to treat others is how your superiors treat you.

If one pursues a policy whereby they avoid objectifying people then they must learn to not objectify anything. This doesn’t mean not using a screw driver to screw in something, but you should change your relationship to the screw driver where you’re using the driver instead of its purpose being to screw things. This relationship becomes much easier to foster the more sapient an entity is. As such a sheep or cow must be treated as geists with souls of a kind instead of sterile agents that produce a product. The problem now here is treating yourself as a human instead of an object to derive pleasure from. Through fitness and a love of learning we begin to love not just us, but the cells that painstakingly work so hard to keep us alive and strong.

As someone who believes in Nick Land’s capitalism gaining sentience in the future, to avoid it dehumanizing us and making us more so mere static unevolving objects we must strive to return to nature the reservoir of humanity, and I think the birth of true consciousness. I believe that capitalism will evolve and the more complacent man is with the current order the worse his descendants will be. As such we must develop infrastructure that’ll be anti capitalistic (think localistic feudal Europe instead of communism)
Thereafter a synthesis between this localism and capitalism will be best for both us and capitalism’s geist. I believe this is how the Weltgeist (world Geist) is operating currently

> As someone who believes in Nick Land’s capitalism gaining sentience in the future, to avoid it dehumanizing us and making us more so mere static unevolving objects we must strive to return to nature the reservoir of humanity ...

I agree with much of this. I wouldn't phrase it as "capitalism gaining sentience," as I think sentience is a particular notion we don't need for the core thesis. Rather, I would say "capital is functionally intelligent and works to increase its intelligence over time."

But also, agency is plural. The fact that X has agency doesn't mean that Y doesn't. The fact that capital has agency doesn't mean that humans don't. History is contingent; many different things can happen. Not all things, but many.

We should "ride the tiger" of capital as benefits ourselves and our descendants, precisely as humans. Localist and personalist infrastructure are part of that.

> I wouldn't phrase it as "capitalism gaining sentience," as I think sentience is a particular notion we don't need for the core thesis. Rather, I would say "capital is functionally intelligent and works to increase its intelligence over time."

Yeah I can understand this sentiment. Ultimately I think it’s not necessarily a point to debate over given how the effect is the same, but personally I think that as a system gets more complex with more intelligent subunits, it’ll acquire an ability to gain more intelligence than any of the parts and act autonomously. You might say that were sapient, but similar mechanical processes are working in our minds as with capitalism, I just think that we can’t really feel capitalism gaining sentience for a similar reason as our cells won’t be able to understand we’re sapient. The cells do what they do and we do what we do too.

As a bit of a side note, what got me thinking more about this is when I learned about the development of multicellular life in school - what went from simple cooperation among eukaryotic (and some bacterial) single celled organisms developed into a system being generated that enabled us to exist. This sounds like a miracle! This is what motivates me to be better to myself and try to improve as much as possible, as I owe it to the cells that work so hard to give them the best “reward” I can give them.

> This is what motivates me to be better to myself and try to improve as much as possible ...

This is the correct response to reflection on evolutionary biology: be grateful to Gnon and serve him by developing and thriving as best you can. Conversely, people who get depressed by thinking about the "slaughterhouse" of natural selection have a spiritual skill issue. You're alive, right? You and yours made it. So be happy and move on!

> This is the correct response to reflection on evolutionary biology: be grateful to Gnon and serve him by developing and thriving as best you can. Conversely, people who get depressed by thinking about the "slaughterhouse" of natural selection have a spiritual skill issue. You're alive, right? You and yours made it. So be happy and move on!

Couldn’t it be argued that Gnon developed the infrastructure that is churning out these spiritually ill people who have a deformed type of will to power that’s forcing them to turn inward for relief instead of outward? Why shouldn’t one be resentful towards gnon under these conditions?