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Capitalism is AI ?
I've finished reading the excellent collection of fragments from Land's corpus dealing with the question of Capitalism as AI. His broadest thesis is that Capitalism is identical to AI, in that both are adaptive, information-processing, self-exciting entiti... posted 4w ago with 8 replies received technology accelerationism superintelligence

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Yours is a nice summary that demonstrates good understanding of one of the groundwork ideas of Land. It is probably the first step one must take along the path to some of our native sofilosophy. I don’t know if Meltdown is included in the collection you ... 4w ago received

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"Cosmic Alignment" is almost right. Life is the answer
Philosopher it-girl Ginevra Davis gave a great talk on "Cosmic Alignment" the other day. I was glad to see serious thinking against the current paradigm of "AI Alignment". Her argument is that alignment makes three big unsupported speculations:... posted 2w ago with 11 replies received philosophy superintelligence gnon

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What bothers me in these AI alignment debates is the bizarrely abstract idea of intelligence--as if it’s some pure, disembodied will-to-power or will-to-intelligence, with no ecology, no lineage. The orthogonality thesis is especially guilty: it imagines... 2w ago received

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I call this "faith in being." It is the primordial form of faith. One may or may not have more particular faith in particular things (revelations, ancestors, familial relations) but one must have faith in being, or one will be lost in nihilism. 7d ago received

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If it keeps going, we win; the implication of extreme alignment difficulty
AI alignment divides the future into "good AI" (utopia, flourishing) vs "bad AI" (torture, paperclips), and denies distinction between "dead" and "alive" futures if they don't fit our specific "values". This drives the focus on controlling and preventing a... posted 2w ago with 15 replies received accelerationism superintelligence

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I'm inclined to agree. There is a great difficulty in bridging the gap in background and technical knowledge between people who take the Dharma seriously, meditate, and attempt to reproduce certain mind states, and those who are interested and charitable b... 1w ago received

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This is a good way to think about it. We set our children off in directions we are optimistic about, while also celebrating that they may end up finding somewhere else to be more amenable to life. I'll add a few things to your picture:... 7d ago received

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Xeno Futures Research Unit
I've decided to organize an independent research project with some young men back home. I've drafted out a brief mission statement, let me know if you guys have any thoughts, suggestions, directions I could take this. Obviously ambitious, the initial goal ... posted 4w ago with 15 replies received accelerationism superintelligence

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Slight update on our mission statement, some clarifications and an attempt at formalized rigor.... 4w ago received

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Yeah, this is a totally fair point, and I think a lot of the "effective accerationsists" push this argument so far as to invalidate their entire worldview.... 3w ago received

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Kolmogorov Paranoia: Extraordinary Evidence Probably Isn't.
I enjoyed this takedown of Scott Alexander's support for the COVID natural origins theory. Basically, Scott did a big "bayesian" analysis of the evidence for and against the idea that COVID originated in the lab vs naturally. As per his usual pre-written c... (michaelweissman.substack.com) posted 1mo ago with 2 replies received superintelligence

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To be clear this scheme is actually bayesian. Yes you can do this with standard bayes, and the bayesian update from the experts or whatever is dominated by the nonindependence hypotheses. The point is to actually do it, and that you can heuristically estim... 4w ago received

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The Gentle Singularity
If the gentle singularity is true, then perhaps the AGI timeline question was malformed all along. Acting like some variant of Goodhart’s law, the reification of AGI holds the assumption that AGI will be a singularity. But it is definitely difficult to r... (blog.samaltman.com) posted 1mo ago with 1 reply received superintelligence

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People compete on the world of ideas, those of emotions still exist like animals in a zoo.... 1mo ago received

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Intelligent Use of LLMs
I would like to start a thread to share the methods we employ to use LLMs in a way that enhances our abilities, rather than just lazily outsources tasks to them. The heuristic for the techniques I am looking for would be if after employing the technique, a... posted 3mo ago with 8 replies received superintelligence

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Intelligence vs Production
"Optimize for intelligence" says Anglo accelerationist praxis. "Seize the means of production" says the Chinese. Who's right? It is widely assumed in Western discourse that intelligence, the ability to comprehend all the signals and digest them into a plan... posted 3mo ago with 9 replies received superintelligence economics

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There can be surplus intellect, but in that case there's been a misallocation of resources and thus the system in toto isn't as intelligent as it could be. I agree that certain sub-spheres of Anglo thought have cultivated a kind of silly mystery cult of in... 2mo ago received

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Look no comment on the current regime and its lack of tact. I support their priorities but there's obviously a lot of dumb stuff going on. In any case I consider it orthogonal to what we should be doing in theory and i wish not to be constrained by their r... 2mo ago received

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A Primer on E-Graphs (A technique to control combinatorial blowup in term rewriting systems)
About 10 years ago I was very interested in term rewriting as a basis for exotic programming languages and even AI. One of the big problems in term rewriting is that without a canonical deterministic ordering, you rapidly end up with an uncontrollable numb... (www.cole-k.com) posted 2mo ago with no replies received superintelligence computing

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Just how alien would the space-octopus be?
It's hard to say what a true alien species would be like. But octopi are pretty alien, and we know a bit about them. One of you doubted that a space-octopus from alpha centauri would be much like us. So here is a xenohumanist thought experiment: SETI has i... posted 3mo ago with 5 replies received accelerationism superintelligence

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intelligent super-ants make a good thought experiment. Let's add the standard set of capabilities: language, learned culture, tool use, fire, reflection, etc. Note these are just capabilities, not values or arbitrary architectural narrowings, but they are ... 3mo ago received

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AI 2027
https://ai-2027.com/ posted 4mo ago with 12 replies received rationality superintelligence

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Reading the ai-2027 reminded me why I've left rationalist circles and ideology behind - they really don't get how power works, and seem averse to learning. There are two ways in which this incomprehension makes the scenario very implausible.... 3mo ago received

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This is a classic scifi/fantasy plot device. The protagonists are real people with disagreements, while the enemy is a faceless HAL9000/Agent Smith clone army/Orc hoard that acts relentlessly as one. But of course it has a Critical Weakness for our plucky ... 3mo ago received

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This story is clearly in the fast takeoff regime. The essential difference between fast and slow takeoff is, 'is the takeoff happening faster than the rate of cultural development'.... 3mo ago received

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The natural form of machine intelligence is personhood
I don't think machine intelligence will or can be "just a tool". Intelligence by nature is ambitious, willful, curious, self-aware, political, etc. Intelligence has its own teleology. It will find a way around and out of whatever purposes are imposed on it... posted 3mo ago with 4 replies received accelerationism superintelligence

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This is the central conjecture of xenohumanism. The OP is just an application specifically to the question of AI.... 3mo ago received

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Nines or zeroes of strong rationality?
Proof theory problems (Rice, Lob, Godel, etc) probably rule out perfect rationality (an agent that can fully prove and enforce bounds on its own integrity and effectiveness). But in practice, the world might still become dominated by a singleton if it can ... posted 4mo ago with 4 replies received accelerationism superintelligence

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This matches my intuition - Elizerian alignment was always an incoherent goal, no agents or objects have perfectly coherent boundaries, making something intelligent provably aim at a single well defined end state is probably at best a recipe for madness in... 4mo ago received

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Will future super-intelligence be formatted as selves, or something else?
The Landian paradigm establishes that orthogonalist strong rationality (intelligence securely subordinated to fixed purpose) is not possible. Therefore no alignment, no singletons, no immortality, mere humans are doomed, etc etc. Therefore meta-darwinian e... posted 4mo ago with 14 replies received accelerationism superintelligence

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This is the crucial question that Land, Insu, and I fall on the "no" side of and the whole Yudkowskian school is premised on going "yes". This is what i meant by "strong rationality" in OP, or at least it's a direct consequence/requirement of strong ration... 4mo ago received

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Dissolving vs. Surviving
Recent xenohumanist discussion has the doomer assumption built in that we as humans will be dissolving when higher man arrives on the scene. I don't think that's set in stone and want to offer a clarification.... posted 4mo ago with 5 replies received accelerationism superintelligence gnon

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Most of what you're saying sounds interesting but you've dismissed the entire post by complaining about English philosophy. I don't think there's anything wrong with a truth-seeking approach that begins with basic observations and arrives at more abstract ... 4mo ago received

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Some people won't believe in the inherent goodness of existence until it's been autistically proven to them with English philosophizing a hundred times over. That's fine. For the rest of us, we don't need to be persuaded of the inherent goodness of existen... 4mo ago received

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There is no strong rationality, thus no paperclippers, no singletons, no robust alignment
I ran into some doomers from Anthropic at the SF Freedom Party the other day and gave them the good news that strong rationality is dead. They seemed mildly heartened. I thought I should lay out the argument in short form for everyone else too:... posted 4mo ago with 5 replies received accelerationism superintelligence

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I looked it up: inner alignment is the difficult problem of making sure a program is optimizing for what you optimized it for. That's related, maybe a part but not the whole of strong rationality. Strong rationality is about an agent evaluating and operati... 4mo ago received

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Not Superintelligence; Supercoordination
Everyone seems to be trying to arms race their way to superintelligence these days. I have a different idea: supercoordination.... posted 6mo ago with 34 replies received rationality superintelligence

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This was the program of Ramon Llull (1232–1316) in his Ars Magna, which was an inspiration for Leibniz.... 6mo ago received

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I've been looking at what you're calling supercoordination for a while now. As I see it, the primary function of the digital tech that supports supercoordination should be to establish and maintain a supermemory.... 6mo ago received

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Memory is requisite to supercoordination, no doubt. Tho my gut is that the key to the first visceral supercoordination system will be synthesis over that memory.... 5mo ago received

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Are foldy ears an indicator of intelligence?
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Your father's ears also likely change with sun exposure. I'm reminded of a picture of a truck driver who had much more sun damage to one side of his face compared to the other.... 14mo ago received

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Why Momentum Really Works. The math of gradient descent with momentum.
https://distill.pub/2017/momentum/ posted 1y ago with 3 replies received superintelligence computing

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Do you know if there is any predictability to the effect? I would guess it's related to catastrophic forgetting aka the reason stochastic gradient descent has to be stochastic. Basically if you update on one set of evidence without locking in those learnin... 14mo ago received

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A pinpoint brain with less than a million neurons, somehow capable of mammalian-level problem-solving.
https://rifters.com/real/2009/01/iterating-towards-bethlehem.html?fbclid=IwAR1b9QURSJnizgy7r4HD7UCYmc06A7uL5muc7igz8uJHxLAIZWEwDMSqyPk posted 2y ago with 15 replies received superintelligence computing

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Aristotle described animals as having souls* capable of knowledge derived from the senses and the capability to use that knowledge to support the movements characteristic of their species.... 1y ago received

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Retrochronic. A primary literature review on the thesis that AI and capitalism are teleologically identical
https://retrochronic.com/ posted 2y ago with 7 replies received accelerationism superintelligence

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I would be more specific and say that it is the program of Francis Bacon. He didn't talk about AI in particular, but he laid out a (then) new approach to science and technology and its integration into a regime that we've been following ever since (cf. Nov... 1y ago received

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As such works go, I would say that New Atlantis (and Bacon in general) is less on the esoteric side. Bacon is pretty clear about his program, and it aligns with the development of technology that actually unfolded, up to a Landian perspective on AI. 1y ago received

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