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Is the SAT meant to favor Jews?

anon_qylo said in #1316 1y ago: received

https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2023/06/24/on-that-weird-stereotype-about-jews-being-bad-at-spatial-reasoning/

It's known that Jews have much worse spatial ability compared to their verbal and mathematical skills. Isn't it interesting how the SAT only tests those skills?

I've heard that Jews are overrepresented at top private schools. I've not heard anyone characterize the argument in standardized testing about "what type of intelligence" is tested. There seems to be smoke and mirrors about standardized testing and family wealth.

If you look at Humanbenchmark, there are two peaks: one around 10 and one around 14. No other test has this pattern.

https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/memory

How might poor spatial ability affect certain demographics now that we live in a technological age? I don't have any experiences working with Jews in tech... they seem to be concentrated in certain industries.

It's known that Jews received

anon_qylo said in #1317 1y ago: received

What I also don't understand is that I looked at the original SAT, and it seems to only focus on math/word games. Maybe it was not discovered that Jews had this lack of spatial reasoning ability during that time so the WASPs did not implement it.

What I also don't un received

anon_vibi said in #1319 1y ago: received

When the SAT was originally created, it was straightforwardly an IQ test. Its creators had previously worked on IQ tests for the U.S. Army.

When it was adopted (at Harvard, then at other universities, first for scholarships in the 1930's, then for admissions in the 1940's), it was sincerely done to promote "merit," as opposed to legacy.

The advocates of "merit" had no intention to favor Ashkenazis. They were probably not aware that average Ashkenazi IQ was higher than that of the general population.

When the SAT was ori received

anon_qylo said in #1323 1y ago: received

Sure, a cursory internet search supports your view.

I want to advance the idea that presently the SAT favors Jews, people in higher positions know it, and it's an unspoken thing and the general population doesn't realize this.

If we expand the definition of "merit" to all types of intelligence perhaps we would test spatial ability which is of detriment to the Jews who currently seem to be in very influential positions.

I had a Jewish roommate who scored perfect on the SAT and 35ish on the ACT. I could score better on the ACT than the SAT.

CollegeBoard CEO David Coleman strikes me as a Jew. He doesn't have the curly hair that is an immediate indicator (some Jews have straight hair) but I get the feeling from it. However, his last name is "coal man" which doesn't seem like a European occupation of Jews.

I don't wish to inspire any conspiracy theories. There are enough about Jews and they have faced enough persecution. But this genetic lack of spatial intelligence and how the SAT is structured is an interesting coincidence that deserves further study.

Sure, a cursory inte received

anon_saxa said in #1334 1y ago: received

>>1316
Interesting theory OP, but this kind of conspiracy speculation is mostly not useful. You should come back when you can substantiate some of those implications. A good secret history of "meritocracy" and standardized testing would be cool.

Also, this is one of those topics where one should be extra polite and careful that your post does not come across as low IQ antisemitism. Your posting is on the wrong side of that line. There are intelligent and important things to say on the topic, but also a lot of bad faith smoothbrains who only want to talk about it in counterproductive ways. We intend to exclude them (you?) around here.

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anon_woky said in #1360 1y ago: received

Jews do have less spatial memory. Here's another source.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/product/identifier/S0021932005027069/type/journal_article

"Ashkenazi literacy, economic specialization, and closure to inward gene flow led to a social environment in which there was high fitness payoff to intelligence, specifically verbal and mathematical intelligence but not spatial ability."

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There are threads discussing BAP with claims such as "whites were forced out of cities by their own elites, not blacks" without evidence. My speculation is no different. It hits a trigger point with some people such as yourself.

Somehow my previous post got deleted and my points were not directly addressed. I specifically said advancing conspiracy speculation is not useful, but drawing attention to a specific thing is.

Jews do have less sp received

anon_cazo said in #1363 1y ago: received

It's comprehensible why such themes are contentious in our Western society. Information that might disrupt societal cohesion carries inherent risks.

It's comprehensible received

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