slopifexmaximus said in #3466 2w ago:
Harvardtards know Winthrop House, but have they read the works of its titular figure? I think not, but you can, anon. Here’s a nice cold plunge for you:
>If we should change from a mixed aristocracy to mere democracy, first we should have no warrant in scripture for it: for there was no such good government in Israel … A democracy is, amongst civil nations, accounted the meanest and worst of all forms of government. [To allow it would be] a manifest breach of the 5th commandment.
Democracy violates the 5th commandment? The American Nehemiah founded the Massachusetts Bay Colony on aristocracy? Yes, your conception of the Puritans as stodgy, gloomy, life-denying retards is probably inherited from the veritable retard HL Mencken. Consider instead the perspective of CS Lewis:
>We must picture these Puritans as the very opposite of those who bear that name today: as young, fierce, progressive intellectuals, very fashionable and up-to-date. They were not teetotallers; bishops, not beer, were their special aversion
Did you really think you could cross the Atlantic, show up on the 17th century equivalent of Mars, and thrive without being a nasty physical beast, dude? Did you think that cohering a community in the face of such grand difficulties would be possible without utterly fucking nuclear, divinely-inspired philosophy?
Here’s what Cotton Mather (yeah the witch trial Cotton Mather, the most influential Puritan minister of his time) had to say about Winthrop in the Magnalia Christi Americana:
>Let Greece boast of her patient Lycurgus, the Lawgiver, by whom Diligence, Temperance, Fortitude and Wit were made the Fashions of a therefore Long-lasting and Renowned Commonwealth: Let Rome tell of her Devout Numa, the Lawgiver, by whom the most Famous Commonwealth saw Peace Triumphing over extinguished War, and cruel Plunders, and Murders giving place to the more mollifying Exercises of his Religion. Our New-England shall tell and boast of her Winthrop, a Lawgiver, as patient as Lycurgus, but not admitting any of his Criminal Disorders; as Devout as Numa, but not liable to any of his Heathenish Madnesses; a Governour in whom the Excellencies of Christianity made a most improving Addition unto the Virtues, wherein even without those he would have made a Parallel for the Great Men of Greece, or of Rome, which the Pen of a Plutarch has Eternized.
Tradcaths BTFO! We already have a Christ-loving King, a Gigachad Lycurgus of the New World, and he was called John Winthrop. Now we're deep, so one may faithfully attempt the sermon which every man woman and child in America has heard at least a bit of: A Modell of Christian Charity. Enjoy it: https://minio.la.utexas.edu/webeditor-files/coretexts/pdf/163020model20of20christian20charity.pdf
>If we should change from a mixed aristocracy to mere democracy, first we should have no warrant in scripture for it: for there was no such good government in Israel … A democracy is, amongst civil nations, accounted the meanest and worst of all forms of government. [To allow it would be] a manifest breach of the 5th commandment.
Democracy violates the 5th commandment? The American Nehemiah founded the Massachusetts Bay Colony on aristocracy? Yes, your conception of the Puritans as stodgy, gloomy, life-denying retards is probably inherited from the veritable retard HL Mencken. Consider instead the perspective of CS Lewis:
>We must picture these Puritans as the very opposite of those who bear that name today: as young, fierce, progressive intellectuals, very fashionable and up-to-date. They were not teetotallers; bishops, not beer, were their special aversion
Did you really think you could cross the Atlantic, show up on the 17th century equivalent of Mars, and thrive without being a nasty physical beast, dude? Did you think that cohering a community in the face of such grand difficulties would be possible without utterly fucking nuclear, divinely-inspired philosophy?
Here’s what Cotton Mather (yeah the witch trial Cotton Mather, the most influential Puritan minister of his time) had to say about Winthrop in the Magnalia Christi Americana:
>Let Greece boast of her patient Lycurgus, the Lawgiver, by whom Diligence, Temperance, Fortitude and Wit were made the Fashions of a therefore Long-lasting and Renowned Commonwealth: Let Rome tell of her Devout Numa, the Lawgiver, by whom the most Famous Commonwealth saw Peace Triumphing over extinguished War, and cruel Plunders, and Murders giving place to the more mollifying Exercises of his Religion. Our New-England shall tell and boast of her Winthrop, a Lawgiver, as patient as Lycurgus, but not admitting any of his Criminal Disorders; as Devout as Numa, but not liable to any of his Heathenish Madnesses; a Governour in whom the Excellencies of Christianity made a most improving Addition unto the Virtues, wherein even without those he would have made a Parallel for the Great Men of Greece, or of Rome, which the Pen of a Plutarch has Eternized.
Tradcaths BTFO! We already have a Christ-loving King, a Gigachad Lycurgus of the New World, and he was called John Winthrop. Now we're deep, so one may faithfully attempt the sermon which every man woman and child in America has heard at least a bit of: A Modell of Christian Charity. Enjoy it: https://minio.la.utexas.edu/webeditor-files/coretexts/pdf/163020model20of20christian20charity.pdf
referenced by: >>3634
Harvardtards know Wi