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Elon Musks Reddit Retard Rebellion: parallels between White Russian political stupidity and the modern right
anon_levu said in #3444 4d ago:
Wordy and pretty mid article. The sort of wordcel political commentariat slop I dislike reading. But there are always interesting questions amongst the slop that we can continue discussing. Here's one: does Elon's outburst deserve harsh political punishment? In other words, do chimpouts necessitate the whip?
The author certainly thinks so, but he strikes me as a 110IQ Rabble Rousing Reddit Retard in his own right. I think that men like Elon should be able to get away with it, specifically because of The Only Reason to Explore Space.
https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/08/16/the-only-reason-to-explore-space/
Are his methods sometimes questionable? Sure. Does he do drugs? Yes. Is he the only living man who can bring us to the stars and reignite the flame of the West? Yes (sorry Palmer).
The author certainly thinks so, but he strikes me as a 110IQ Rabble Rousing Reddit Retard in his own right. I think that men like Elon should be able to get away with it, specifically because of The Only Reason to Explore Space.
https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/08/16/the-only-reason-to-explore-space/
Are his methods sometimes questionable? Sure. Does he do drugs? Yes. Is he the only living man who can bring us to the stars and reignite the flame of the West? Yes (sorry Palmer).
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Wordy and pretty mid
anon_gwhe said in #3446 4d ago:
>>3444
I like Nick Land's recent formulation: Elon should focus on Mars and leave the rest up to "the lofty powers". Elon's overwhelming competitive advantage is Mars. He bought his way into MAGA with some decisive contributions, so he has goodwill despite the sperging, now all he has to do is deliver starship. No one else can do it, and he doesn't seem to be able to do government.
I like Nick Land's recent formulation: Elon should focus on Mars and leave the rest up to "the lofty powers". Elon's overwhelming competitive advantage is Mars. He bought his way into MAGA with some decisive contributions, so he has goodwill despite the sperging, now all he has to do is deliver starship. No one else can do it, and he doesn't seem to be able to do government.
I like Nick Land's r
anon_toba said in #3456 4d ago:
>>3444
I think it's clear to most rightists that arrivistes like Elon conceptualize the West solely in terms of what aids their pet technological projects. Hence the H1B chimpout earlier this year, unresolved tensions between "natalism" and accelerationism, and libertarianism with anti-woke makeup.
Mystery Grove may be a one-trick pony but Elon's political forays are a good example of why the tech world is incapable of generating actionable political talent. His personality represents a general tendency rather than an exception.
I think it's clear to most rightists that arrivistes like Elon conceptualize the West solely in terms of what aids their pet technological projects. Hence the H1B chimpout earlier this year, unresolved tensions between "natalism" and accelerationism, and libertarianism with anti-woke makeup.
Mystery Grove may be a one-trick pony but Elon's political forays are a good example of why the tech world is incapable of generating actionable political talent. His personality represents a general tendency rather than an exception.
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I think it's clear t
anon_kehu said in #3459 3d ago:
>>3456
> ... most rightists that arrivistes like Elon ...
Elon was never a rightist, even at the height of his MAGA engagement. He has consistently been a libertarian. He hopped onto the Trump train for a few months, mostly out of revulsion for Biden-Harris, but that does not a rightist make.
> ... why the tech world is incapable of generating actionable political talent.
I wouldn't argue the contrary, but I don't think 'tech' is the right variable to consider here, whether positively or negatively. The closest model on the scene today for a promising future leader may be Vance, who while not from tech, is at least tech adjacent.
> ... most rightists that arrivistes like Elon ...
Elon was never a rightist, even at the height of his MAGA engagement. He has consistently been a libertarian. He hopped onto the Trump train for a few months, mostly out of revulsion for Biden-Harris, but that does not a rightist make.
> ... why the tech world is incapable of generating actionable political talent.
I wouldn't argue the contrary, but I don't think 'tech' is the right variable to consider here, whether positively or negatively. The closest model on the scene today for a promising future leader may be Vance, who while not from tech, is at least tech adjacent.
Elon was never a rig
anon_sika said in #3489 12h ago:
I believe by Occam's razor that behind the curtails there exists some sort of Nash equilibrium that justifies all of Elon Musk's behavior far enough that if you knew what he knows you would believe he is at least somewhat rational and def. sane.
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I believe by Occam's
anon_gwhe said in #3493 6h ago:
>>3489
sure at least somewhat rational and sane. Obviously it's not a accident that he's the richest man in the world. But he's also miscalibrated on a bunch of stuff like politics, and I don't believe there's that much secret stuff going on here.
sure at least somewhat rational and sane. Obviously it's not a accident that he's the richest man in the world. But he's also miscalibrated on a bunch of stuff like politics, and I don't believe there's that much secret stuff going on here.
sure at least somewh
anon_kehu said in #3499 11m ago:
>>3489
> I believe by Occam's razor that behind the curtails there exists some ... justifies all of Elon Musk's behavior ...
I'd be happy to take the opposite side of that bet. A far more obvious explanation is that Elon is a bit autistic, and while very high IQ and high energy, he's also lacking in practical wisdom in many areas, including politics.
Well before the Inauguration, I was saying there was a sharp disanalogy between a corporation in which one has controlling ownership and the federal government, and that therefore DOGE was likely to fail. The notion that Elon could do with the federal government what he did at Twitter after acquiring it was always absurd. Elon wasn't even president, and even Trump won only by a narrow margin and had narrow margins in Congress. The fact that Elon flipped out after running into roadblocks at DOGE just speaks badly of his own expectations.
There's no 3D chess here. There's no secret plan. That's not the Occam's razor explanation at all.
> I believe by Occam's razor that behind the curtails there exists some ... justifies all of Elon Musk's behavior ...
I'd be happy to take the opposite side of that bet. A far more obvious explanation is that Elon is a bit autistic, and while very high IQ and high energy, he's also lacking in practical wisdom in many areas, including politics.
Well before the Inauguration, I was saying there was a sharp disanalogy between a corporation in which one has controlling ownership and the federal government, and that therefore DOGE was likely to fail. The notion that Elon could do with the federal government what he did at Twitter after acquiring it was always absurd. Elon wasn't even president, and even Trump won only by a narrow margin and had narrow margins in Congress. The fact that Elon flipped out after running into roadblocks at DOGE just speaks badly of his own expectations.
There's no 3D chess here. There's no secret plan. That's not the Occam's razor explanation at all.
I'd be happy to take