anon_jyvi said in #4077 3d ago:
The thread >>4003 interested me as an AI valuation skeptic. Personally I view it as a secretary.
What disturbs me is that much of the world appears to be under the spell of AI and it's mysticants.
For example:
1. AI is being used to make non-stop slop posts on social media, and people respond with slop of their own.
2. AI is being hailed as a savior of businesses and a massive efficiency boost, regardless of if there is any evidence of such.
3. Chatbots and companion bots are seen as good for terminally lonely people.
4. Any government proposal can be justified by saying growth through AI will make the costs (both human and monetary) insignificant.
5. Mass data harvesting of personal information can be utilized by any country that has control over captive AI firms.
6. Governments are able to use the mass infrastructure spending on data centers for purposes other than chatbots (should they wish).
7. Huge amounts of trust are put into those leading AI firms despite their dubious credentials and intelligence. This has created a priesthood of disreputible people.
8. AI slop "floods the field" which poisons traditional internet communication (as many here have pointed out).
The Terminal Solution is the absolute and systemic destruction of any AI slop or AI adherant. If these actors and products are allowed to persist the results will be catastrophic. Already people are seeing that the AI hype is overblown and will not lead to a promised abundance. Allowing "AI" to persist will bring with it only the negatives outlined above.
The following actions can be taken:
1. Confront any slop post immediately and harshly. If you see a post "I spent 10 hours watching a Lex Fridman video to create the following thread of the TOP 10 tips" tell the person they are an idiot, then report and block their account. If your family watches AI videos or is looking at AI content, tell them to stop. Tell them that it damages their brain or something - they will believe you, because it is probably true.
2. Confront people you work with who are saying AI will boom the economy/company. If they say "Stocks are up because of AI" tell them that AI is a scam. Don't elaborate, because you don't need to, it is obvious to anyone that stops and thinks for a moment that 35% of the S&P500 should not be AI boosted tech stocks.
3. Tell anyone that uses a chatbot or chat friend they are cringe, mentally ill, and interacting with a demon. This is Divine Wisdom, so they will believe you and stop from shame.
4. Spread FUD at any sort of AI spending at your employer, within your local community, and in your government. If your local representatives are positive on AI, send them a cryptic letter saying you are an insider and have knowledge AI is a giant scam. Since they are risk adverse they will be afraid to talk about AI.
5. Tell friends and family that AI is collecting their darkest secrets so they should not communicate with AI. Be open to talking to friends and family who are struggling with internal issues, but deter them from ever speaking to AI about such things.
6. Tell friends and family who are right wing that AI is a liberal conspiracy to gather data and harm citizens. Tell liberal friends that AI is being used by Palantir to spy on people who are not Trump supporters.
7. Call Yudkowski and anyone who has ever used p(doom), p(bloom), E/acc, etc. a deluded fool, so they either are revealed to be attention seeking charlatans or adapt their views to spend time doing something that will improve the country. Watch their public accounts closely, and embarass them whenever they make a small slip. Through repeated confrontation eventually their facade of genius will be chipped away revealing the opportunistic tendencies. Call out AI applications that are clearly antisocial and deraged (gooner bots, AI friends, AI therapists).
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
What disturbs me is that much of the world appears to be under the spell of AI and it's mysticants.
For example:
1. AI is being used to make non-stop slop posts on social media, and people respond with slop of their own.
2. AI is being hailed as a savior of businesses and a massive efficiency boost, regardless of if there is any evidence of such.
3. Chatbots and companion bots are seen as good for terminally lonely people.
4. Any government proposal can be justified by saying growth through AI will make the costs (both human and monetary) insignificant.
5. Mass data harvesting of personal information can be utilized by any country that has control over captive AI firms.
6. Governments are able to use the mass infrastructure spending on data centers for purposes other than chatbots (should they wish).
7. Huge amounts of trust are put into those leading AI firms despite their dubious credentials and intelligence. This has created a priesthood of disreputible people.
8. AI slop "floods the field" which poisons traditional internet communication (as many here have pointed out).
The Terminal Solution is the absolute and systemic destruction of any AI slop or AI adherant. If these actors and products are allowed to persist the results will be catastrophic. Already people are seeing that the AI hype is overblown and will not lead to a promised abundance. Allowing "AI" to persist will bring with it only the negatives outlined above.
The following actions can be taken:
1. Confront any slop post immediately and harshly. If you see a post "I spent 10 hours watching a Lex Fridman video to create the following thread of the TOP 10 tips" tell the person they are an idiot, then report and block their account. If your family watches AI videos or is looking at AI content, tell them to stop. Tell them that it damages their brain or something - they will believe you, because it is probably true.
2. Confront people you work with who are saying AI will boom the economy/company. If they say "Stocks are up because of AI" tell them that AI is a scam. Don't elaborate, because you don't need to, it is obvious to anyone that stops and thinks for a moment that 35% of the S&P500 should not be AI boosted tech stocks.
3. Tell anyone that uses a chatbot or chat friend they are cringe, mentally ill, and interacting with a demon. This is Divine Wisdom, so they will believe you and stop from shame.
4. Spread FUD at any sort of AI spending at your employer, within your local community, and in your government. If your local representatives are positive on AI, send them a cryptic letter saying you are an insider and have knowledge AI is a giant scam. Since they are risk adverse they will be afraid to talk about AI.
5. Tell friends and family that AI is collecting their darkest secrets so they should not communicate with AI. Be open to talking to friends and family who are struggling with internal issues, but deter them from ever speaking to AI about such things.
6. Tell friends and family who are right wing that AI is a liberal conspiracy to gather data and harm citizens. Tell liberal friends that AI is being used by Palantir to spy on people who are not Trump supporters.
7. Call Yudkowski and anyone who has ever used p(doom), p(bloom), E/acc, etc. a deluded fool, so they either are revealed to be attention seeking charlatans or adapt their views to spend time doing something that will improve the country. Watch their public accounts closely, and embarass them whenever they make a small slip. Through repeated confrontation eventually their facade of genius will be chipped away revealing the opportunistic tendencies. Call out AI applications that are clearly antisocial and deraged (gooner bots, AI friends, AI therapists).
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
referenced by: >>4079
The thread >>4003 in
