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Reviving Interstate Competition

anon_nali said in #5036 3d ago: received

Wars are often understood to be entirely negative/tragic events. While my goal isn’t to deny the tragedy of human suffering wars cause, they do advance state/cultural evolution.

Stephen Kotkin noted that westernization/modernization (adaption of standing professional armies, industrial economies, centralized bureaucracies, mass education) of the rest of the world happened due to interstate competition. Geopolitics, not ideology or culture, was the primary driver of state formation and modernization.

A world where Pax Americana guarantees the sanctity of post-1945 borders, is a world with limited cultural/state evolution. This is a particularly problematic status quo for failed states. Whereas they are often hollowed out, weak, corrupt and unpopular, they can be sustained indefinitely so long as they are protected under Pax Americana.

Failed states should not be protected by Pax Americana. They should be fair game for interstate competition.

If Somaliland and Puntland are stable, and have the popular support for secession, while Somalia itself is a failed state they should be able secede. Likewise if DR Congo is a failed state, Rwanda should be able to conquer Eastern DR Congo.

A potential mechanism that can try to formalize into the rules based international order can be states maintaining a failed states list. Individual states/provinces may secede from the failed central state by holding a referendum with international observers. Alternatively, neighboring countries may annex parts or whole of the failed state if they follow Geneva conventions in their invasion and then subsequently hold and win a referendum in the new territories with international observers present.

The idea behind this mechanism is that it can revive interstate competition, rescue failed states meanwhile minimizing civilian casualties.

Wars are often under received

anon_dasi said in #5037 3d ago: received

> A potential mechanism that can try to formalize into the rules based international order can be states maintaining a failed states list

That's how it already works today. Countries that end up on the American/"UN" bad boy naughty list are eligible for stage-managed regime change or partition. Libya, Sudan, Syria, and now maybe Venezuela.

This is a far cry from real competition, though.

You might well get your wish for renewed real conflict, but as long as it involves some list of curated by the "rules based international order" (lol) we're not there it.

referenced by: >>5038

That's how it alread received

anon_nali said in #5038 3d ago: received

>>5037

Not quite. We don't really approve of invasions or partitions but insofar its pursued its against 'bad boys' not failed states. As to the 'rules based international order', Concert of Europe or the Koine Eirene are other examples for it. Its not 'gay' to have it.

Not quite. We don't received

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