There is a need to dive deep into Economic Theory for the future.
It seems like the only "crypto" options that have a future is UBI and Bitcoin. Infinite printable goy-points, or 21 million bitcoins.
We need a vision that criticizes the WEF capitalism, while protecting private ownership. That criticizes communism while preserving socialist policies. Internationalist, while collaborates with nationalists movements. With secular government, but unlike communism, not hostile towards religion. Anti-mass migration. Pro technology. Pro Bitcoin, open to the idea of "national" UBI, but while encouraging the working ethic.
Pro youth, anti-boomers.
Pro AI acceleration, but anti "human replacement." Preventing AI catastrophe, while opposing One World Government.
A movement that wants to steward the eco system of our planet, while also wanting to colonize the stars.
What does an army look like under mass drone wars? I don't know, but I would like to discuss.
(image is an idea for a flag, XXI representing 21 million bitcoins, looking up to space, grounded on earth. Also resembling stars on the black background of outer space. Orange represents true human wealth)
Nice thought provoking prompt. I think you’re giving too much centrality to Bitcoin. The core of it is really “pro youth anti boomer”… you want inspiring reality based youth politics.
> That criticizes communism while preserving socialist policies
Which socialist policies do you want to preserve?
It’s hard to see socialism as anything but enemy. All current incarnations of it are decel and third worldist to the core. Yes the state has to ensure broad material prosperity in the face of increasing concentration and mechanization of the economy, somehow, but I am skeptical of framing this is “socialism”.
>>5228 I think the bitcoin sacralization stuff is kinda cringe. As much as they used to larp that some day they would build citadels and be the wholecoiner aristocracy, the bitcoiners are generally a bunch of misers. I've only really heard of ETHlords actually doing anything with all that crypto money. Also, the 21 million thing is likely to break when they run out of block subsidy in the next 20 years or so. Tx fees simply aren't enough to pay for the network. Cool flag though.
Your program is good mostly but incoherent on a few key points.
First of all UBI is just a bad idea and doesn't help. Why should useless eaters be paid for existing? It's generally a rebrand of communism and/or a palliative cope about a post-AGI economy. If you have no productive purpose, you're actually just screwed. There is no place for you in the world anymore. At best you get the wretched favela rat life from the corrupt leakage of the slave morality system, but that hardly preserves anything worth preserving. More likely the system wakes up one day, realizes you're a pure liability, and cuts off your social security checks. Far better would be universal basic head tax. If you can't muster $1000/month in productive surplus you get exiled to the wilderness or maybe just liquidated.
Your AI points are also wrong. AI is inherently about replacing humans. There is no pro-AI but anti-replacement. You can argue about non-AI techno-capital but with AI it's the whole telos of the field. What is "AI catastrophe" if not just AI acceleration? World government isn't going to work so yeah sure don't do that, but that means we bite the bullet on someone doing uncontained intelligence development, which means eventual replacement of humans, AI catastrophe, etc.
Fascist econ is centralizing and statist. If you want a fascist economy to run on crypto, either crypto has to radically change or fascism has to. Fascism and BTC are two plausible futures for the economy, but I don’t think it’s plausible that they’ll have much overlap. I don’t see China (actually existing National Socialism) rushing to release their currency from state control.
>>5241 Well Bitcoin if it works is like gold, and fascism if it works is for national economies. There’s nothing in “fascist” economics that says there can’t be currencies from outside the state. You could run an internally fascist economy with labor backed currency with coordinated international trade in barter and bitcoin etc. All bitcoin does is impose relative limits on inflation and capital controls.
That said, they may not go together well as political principles in the same movement. But why not? The money printer economy and related international finance clique has been generally a vector for corruption and national sickness. Get rid of both at same time with bitcoin fascism.
To contribute something positive to this thread i think the future ideology has to be unabashedly posthumanist. Begin from Land and work out the economic principles for an economy and society made of self improving superhuman autonomous corporations. For example, all forms of egalitarian unconditional welfare are counterproductive though the state may take an interest in subsidizing into existence a meritous and eugenic next generation of independent autonomous corps. Think Inqtel and darpa meets lebensborn. There are very interesting questions to be explored about what an artificial citizen should look like, whether he can have beneficial shareholders, whether he should be by nature made obedient to the state or whether it is better to make him fiercely independent and try to build the state out of that. Lets take the conversation in this direction.
We need to embrace a future as purely digital beings. The rest is just cope.
None of the welfare schemes tech oligarchs like to trot out are going to produce a healthy population. And yes UBI is welfare, just under a different name.
>>5244 I don't think purely digital beings will be all there is. Somebody has to exist in base reality here, whether mechanically or biologically. Biology will probably even remain a valuable platform, though likely to be reengineered as biorobots not kept as legacy UBI huemans.
>>5239 > hmm acktually bitcoin bad because they don't gib me the gibs. Bi-talik gave me the gibs, therefore ethereum gud. Ethereum gud because I get gibs. Bitcoin bad because satoshi no gibs,
You're obviously not very technical and your criticisms of a technology has nothing to do with the tech itself. Therefore opinions on this will be dismissed
>the 21 million thing is likely to break
again, we already established that your opinions on the actual tech should be dismissed.
>AI is inherently about replacing humans
Wrong. The same criticism was made by the liberals against the fascist : "capitalism is about having private property" – the fascists replied that they are in favor of private property but against capitalism. just like these two can be separated, so can AI and human replacement.
>>5244 This is the most goyslave future imaginable. I don't think it's worth thinking about, much less preparing for, these kinds of contingencies. Focus on steering towards the good futures.
