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Sterility and the Growing Androgyny of Humans

anon_peme said in #5346 7d ago: received

Anglerfish are a deep-sea animal that uses its bioluminescent lure to capture prey and court mates. Along the way, as the males lack a phallus, they bite onto the larger female Anglerfish, which then fuses the male's tissues into the female's to efficiently enable the flow of sperm to fertilize the female's eggs & produce offspring. Subsequently, the males die out and become lifeless appendages of the female that just donate what remaining sperm they have.

I hate the word "marriage" - not the concept of marriage (I do hope to get married/have kids one day), but I disdain the very sterile sound of marriage. There is no love of life present within this word; it is not a celebration of the sexes, of sexuality, of femininity and masculinity, but a renunciation of youth, passion, and life.
How revolting! Why would someone want to get married in this day and age, when it means the renunciation of life itself, just to be a sperm/financial bank? Where is the passion, growth, and love of life that many of different ages have found? No wonder so many parade the idea of being childfree and unmarried.
We need to regenerate communities once more - we need warriors, masters, rulers, heroes, intrigue, danger, oracles, life, to be truly alive and fulfilled. In ages past, when hunting for a mammoth made you a celebrity/hero in your group, nowadays, the means to have such valor are limited. When the world is so safe, how can one become a warrior who overcomes the enemy? What hierarchies are there to climb and prove yourself with? While some may point to the new potentials in the modern age, like being a content creator, gay scientist, and more, does reaching a million views on a video have the same impact as a near-death experience with your friends at Troy or the journey one finds themselves in crossing the Gobi desert and seeing Chinese civilization in all its glory?

Apologize if I've rambled on too long now, yet I believe the culprit behind this disenchantment is the state & bureaucracy, ever-growing agents that pry themself into every little issue its people protest about. In the establishment of this feminine safety-oriented culture, we've enabled the state, a purely quantitative force, to shove itself into every issue, leaving practically no wiggle room for its citizens to organize themselves, limiting the means for boys to transmutate themselves into men (Schools in a way can be a model for the anatomy of the state; it's led by unhappy women who penalize boys for being aggressive and operating in a way that is outside its influence. You must follow this schedule, go over here during this hour, play for 15-30 minutes, then return to your classroom and follow the assigned work that I've given you). You are bred to be an anglerfish; go collect your coins from work for years on end, then die one day.

The ideal citizens are those who are the most obedient towards it, women. This'd eventually lead to the emasculation of men, yet not their feminization. So far I've only critiqued the consequences of modernity on men, but what about women? They too are not allowed to be feminine; while certainly the force for de-feminization isn't as strong as emmasculation, women are expected to take up a masculine mantle, go into a masculine workforce, & try to play the same intrasexual competitive games men do with each other to rise their corporate hierarchy. In consequence, many women have attempted to feminize the workplace by the addition of HR, practically a nano-nanny-state that creeps into every vulgar thing done there.

Inevitabley there would be no place for men or women to take up their traditional hierarchies that have been designed for their sexes (I'm not a reactionary - while I wouldn't mind changes towards gender relations, I am wholeheartedly against its practical dismantling). No longer are there to be male & female archetypes, just androgenous & equally meaningless data points for the state to quantify.

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anon_daga said in #5355 2d ago: received

>>5346
I'm of the opinion that a change in lifestyle, rearing, law, and formalized education would reverse nearly all of modern man's weakness within two generations. Subjugate women as all the greatest minds of history have agreed is necessary. Segregate by sex as is logical. Raise boys martially, institute anime-finishing schools for girls, all other specifics of decidedly lesser importance to be determined at leisure.
You're not solving this without "radical" changes as such. It is only reasonable to unsentimentally do away with all social movements after WW2 (and many before), which were entirely frivolous and mistaken.

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anon_peme said in #5358 2d ago: received

> Subjugate women as all the greatest minds of history have agreed is necessary

As a male feminist I whole heartedly disagree. We need to not reject women and try to make their lives miserable, this very notion is a flanderization of sexual norms in the past.

While you could make the argument that patriarchy is a good force for the growth of civilization, I am partial to this view, what you’re proposing seems too LARPy and needlessly reactionary. What is the importance of martiality being forced upon young boys?

I’m in favor of radical changes, but you need to elaborate the utility of them on society and how they’re to be actualized.

Lastly it would also be key to restore feminity, and maybe even go beyond our predecessors and define us as an even higher goal that women should pursue as much as men pursue stuff like wealth or prestige. It is pertinent for the NRX to develop a holistic worldview that encapsulates people beyond young guys.

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anon_daga said in #5359 2d ago: received

>>5358
> As a male feminist I whole heartedly disagree.
If you don't agree that the enfranchisement of women (and most men, but that's besides the point) is undesirable, than stop reading and don't reply. I don't want to hear your protestations against something so blitheringly obvious. "I'm a male feminist" fucking lol

> too LARPy and needlessly reactionary
Reactionary is opposing progress due to an inflexibility or perversion of the mind. This is merely understanding that the separate characters of men and women must be respected and worked around, rather than blithely ignored and papered over to the catastrophic detriment of society. Moreover, the usage of the term LARP implies that you scoff at the idea that the practices of the past can have any utility in the present, which is patently ridiculous. Patriarchy is not a "good force for the growth of civilization" - what an academic faggotry, your wording there - it is the natural and most desirable hierarchy of mankind asserting itself through social structure.

>What is the importance of martiality being forced upon young boys?
Men are only capable of fully developing desirable virtues in an education which includes the rigors of physical exertion, healthy competition, and masculine comraderie. If you require this obvious truth in less philosophical terms, the male brain is totally transformed by consistent exaction of the hormonal profiles which result from the social and physical conditions I propose as ideal.

>you need to elaborate the utility of them on society and how they’re to be actualized
The practices of the great Western states at their pinnacle such as Britain, Prussia, France, and Spain are a fine enough starting point. I believe that even an unimaginative wholesale copying of one or multiple would still be superior by many orders of magnitude to what exists today. I have all of history on my side, and you have a mere century of pitiable decline and squandering on yours.

>It is pertinent for the NRX to develop a holistic worldview that encapsulates people beyond young guys.
Have you seriously not dissolved your sentimentality towards democracy yet? There is no need to compromise for the sake of the masses and a deluded, doomed worldview, or rather to do so would doom what is desired. Women do not have any need or desire for that which men do, and its artificial imposition (yes, this is what feminism was) upon them plays to only their basest, most deplorable instincts. Essentially, the opinions of women only "matter" in your mind because they are backed by the legal power of the state. In the more sensible historical states, the women follow where men lead, and can only ever advice, never decide.

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anon_peme said in #5360 2d ago: received

>>5359
> "I'm a male feminist" fucking lol
> I have all of history on my side, and you have a mere century of pitiable decline and squandering on yours.
> Patriarchy is not a "good force for the growth of civilization" - what an academic faggotry, your wording there

Imao niggas like you are too spergy to actually do change irl.

> Have you seriously not dissolved your sentimentality towards democracy yet? There is no need to compromise for the sake of the masses and a deluded, doomed worldview, or rather to do so would doom what is desired. Women do not have any need or desire for that which men do, and its artificial imposition (yes, this is what feminism was) upon them plays to only their basest, most deplorable instincts.

Every single world religion/major ideology has incorporated all facets of society into their belief system. Even fascism has included women to a degree by praising their role as maternal figures. If we have a hecking based ideology that only focuses on young men it’ll need to either expand out to include the elderly, women, etc to some fashion, or just whither and die out.

> In the more sensible historical states, the women follow where men lead, and can only ever advice, never decide

I’m not advocating for pure egalitarianism between men and women, but just a role that women could play in society beyond being birthing machines who also have the sexo with men and maintain the house. The fact that women came in droves into the workforce in the 70s and 80s should underline how badly they wanted change and a sene of importance in society.
I want a society that could satiate the needs of all those within it and not just a minority of people. Don’t confuse this with political power, I don’t think people should be given the same voting power.

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anon_daga said in #5361 2d ago: received

>>5360
>niggas
>you're too spergy
>say this irl
Why are you even here?

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anon_peme said in #5362 2d ago: received

>>5361
Idk

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