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Where do ambitious young men go?

hyperberien said in #5613 1w ago: received

Been spending lot of time around X and talking to friends and colleagues irl recently and one thing that strikes me is that with the exception of the US post 2024, lots of ambitious young men are thinking of leaving their home countries if they wish to have a successful business career. I'll focus on business here and not joining a political movement since the people I've seen and talked to about it have various political opinions.
To break it down:

-> Western Europeans want to leave to the US if they want to work in Tech/Finance, Australia if in commodity sector or more manual. In the past 20y there was an exodus of French talent as well to the UK & Canada. London for instance had a reputation for higher salaries and better quality of life than Western Europe.
-> Now Brits want to get out too, as the only real consequence of Brexit has been opening the floodgates for immigrants and follow the EU in its green suicide as well.
-> New Zealanders and Australians are also suffering under the yoke of gerontocracy in their respective countries.
-> US recent job numbers show all the positions are going to women and immigrants even under a Trump administration

For those that currently work in the west and even more so in Europe it's a gruelling path ahead where every new dollar earned is cut in half by taxes for old people and foreigners.
So my question is where do we go? Certain cities in Asia are attractive, such as Singapore, Hong Kong or even Shanghai but that would just mean becoming a diaspora under the constant threat of visa renewals and locked from our home countries. Where can an ambitious you man build a business, succeed and earn enough money to get ahead? Even for political reasons, the right needs an international network of funding, one that can take over from Musk or Thiel and go where they cannot.

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anon_kuhu said in #5614 1w ago: received

You said it yourself. They go to the United States of America. The hedonists and libertines can have a good time bopping around southeast Asia but, as you describe, none of them build any owned power. That type of success happens best in SF, NY, DC, and LA.

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hyperberien said in #5616 8d ago: received

>>5614
I just hope post H1-B crackdown (completely legitimate), young western men can still have a path for coming to build in the US then.

I just hope post H1- received

anon_zopi said in #5618 7d ago: received

>>5613
I think your post says it pretty explicitly. Young white English-speaking men go to the United States of America because that's where the opportunity and the money are.

>>5614
Exactly. If you want to do some kind of digital nomad perpetual vacation, you can go to Bangkok or Shanghai or Tokyo, but that's always going to be a very marginal phenomenon.

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anon_jisu said in #5624 4d ago: received

Read my post on Effective Altruism

https://sofiechan.com/p/2015#2024

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Read my post on Effe received

anon_zopi said in #5625 4d ago: received

>>5624
Great poast, great discussion in the comments

I'll plug what I was saying in >>4680: having an ideological legitimization for your movement is INCREDIBLY important. Ideological formation, not just within the right wing but outside of it, is what allows you to build institutions and give your people jobs and attract high human capital.

When normies see your faction as just obviously correct and morally laudable, then you win.

Great poast, great d received

hyperionmatador said in #5650 5h ago: received

You bring up some great points, one thing I'd like to point out is how advantageous the United States is with regards to its federalism, especially regarding business law. There are many states that want your business, and won't take much of your money.

Also, as some unsolicited life advice from a guy who isn't as young anymore but was, and is just as ambitious: I don't know anything about you, but I will assume you are an American with high personal agency. My recommendation is to initially be strategic about a "career." I imagine you are quite young and probably unmarried. Eventually, you will want to have a wife and kids, its important to begin considering the requirements for a safety net. After college I was fed up with my major and joined the military. I had a blast with the adventure, but the skills weren't transferable and it made the transition harder than I expected. It set me back a bit and I could have mitigated this better. This is relevant for you, because while the idea of the "startup" lifestyle, rock-climbing instructor, etc. jobs may be very appealing to you. I'd recommend you call it a day no later than 26-27 years old (earlier the better, but I understand how one needs to scratch that itch). If you can, move to a large city and get a "good job" (i.e. upwards career trajectory) in a field you don't hate and are decently good at. The large city is important as that is where the intellectual communities and the money is. If you're smart the networking will occur naturally. Find meaning in things outside of the 9-5 and accept your job is just that, a means of income. Once you have this, its your foundation. Your base. Don't fuck it up. If everything I say after this fails, you can still maintain the upwards career trajectory here and provide a viable and great life for your family.

Once you have your base, throw all of the vitality and life God has given you into your pursuit. I don't know what your pursuit is. I can't help you find it, or even point you in the rough direction. Sorry. But once you have that (seems to be for you some sort of business). Throw everything you have into that, commit commit commit. Eventually, if you're successful it will be more appealing to quit your job and go full time on it. Remember, if you have remained strategic about your life so far, you will still be in good standing with your employer. Request first for a leave of absence. If they deny it, resign on good terms. Maintain contact with them in case your pursuit goes up in flames. The good times seemingly never end until they do, and it is often abrupt and violent.

Now assuming you have gotten this far in life I would imagine you are probably still living in the city you started in, now working on your pursuit full time, making some good money, with significant personal freedom. You should take advantage of that freedom, and leverage the federalist system of the US as best as you can.

Roughly speaking here is how I do it:
1) Research the power center you want to exist in and hopefully one day have influence in. Buy some cheap flights and fly around to places where you have friends. See what's up, and figure out if you like it.
2) Research where you would like to live "full time." Some states such as South Dakota have by far the best taxes and business hookups, but I personally would not want to live there. I also recommend you fly there and see what life is like not only in their capital cities, but also the smaller towns and countryside. Its very peaceful.
3) Split your time. Airbnb/rent in the city, own in the state. Fly back and forth as needed. Tax laws are quite permissive on where you can actually declare as "residing."

I'm out of space now. Maybe this is worth a full post... good luck.

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anon_bybw said in #5651 5h ago: received

>>5650
Give us a full post and new thread. Great stuff.

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