in thread "Are aesthetics really primary when seeking converts?": I'm all for giving young men a place, but the median age of the signatories of the American Declaration of Independence was roughly 44 (https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/signers-factsheet), and Benjamin Franklin was already 70 (and he still went to Pa... 13mo ago (collapse hidden) 88 I'm all for giving y (view hidden) 88