Can Rationality Support Healthy Morality? I went to church yesterday with another sofiechanner. It was nice to see a healthy community full of normal young people who live with gratitude and hope. The sermon incisively applied their worldview to support the moral discipline necessary for healthy l... posted 5mo ago with 12 replies (collapse hidden) 1010 Can Rationality Supp (view hidden) 1010 Illich is great, but he's primarily reacting to the industrial-economic logic, and the fraud inherent in ideas of expertise, professionalism, and convenience. He may be reacting futily. I don't actually see the connection here. Can you expand? ... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) 33 Illich is great, but (view hidden) 33 The inner spiritual life is definitely where things need to be worked out. It cant be worked out in a purely logical fashion because so much of it is, from the perspective of logic, about which premises we vibe with in an entirely pre-rational way. This is... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) 44 The inner spiritual (view hidden) 44 Indeed, they are in fact a working religion. Im actually quite bullish on the rationalists in the long term. Their problems are some of the most interesting philosophical problems you can find these days, and they are rigorous enough to actually update dow... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) 44 Indeed, they are in (view hidden) 44 Indeed, at least you cant actively see jesus not rising from the dead, but one can actively see the moral and social chaos of polyamory. Reminds me of the old jim.com argument against obviously falsifiable doctrines like egalitarianism. ... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) 33 Indeed, at least you (view hidden) 33 Yes i mean a morality that basicaly takes account of the modern scientific cosmology and biology, and then starts reasoning about ends. But in a nietzschean way (examining them first of all as natural phenomena to be explained and analyzed) before taking t... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) 55 Yes i mean a moralit (view hidden) 55