in thread "The devil's argument against the falseness of eden, and God's reason for evil": All the orthodox theology I have heard fundamentally treats "the fall" as a bad thing. It is a bad thing that God has repurposed into a good thing, but it was not God's ideal plan and Adam and Eve made the wrong choice. I don't think there can be a Christi... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.2 2.2 All the orthodox the (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.2 2.2