in thread "Are aesthetics really primary when seeking converts?": Whether or not you can Hari Seldon your way into an effective conversion protocol is doubtful. Men are too dissimilar and idiosyncratic for a proselytization approach to be generalizable over ideologies.... 1y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.3 4.3 Whether or not you c (view hidden) log in to judge received 4.3 4.3 I disagree that the question cannot be asked or the answer learned. Solomon did. Aristotle. Thomas Aquinas. Whether apocryphally or not, these man asked God for wisdom and received it. We may not believe that goodness is a Person Who can hear us, but just ... 1y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 6.2 6.2 I disagree that the (view hidden) log in to judge received 6.2 6.2 Right - well, I think the process - the ideal, fully-engaged process - is simply to continually ask the question ourselves (i.e. pray), and encourage others to do the same. 1y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 0.7 0.7 Right - well, I thin (view hidden) log in to judge received 0.7 0.7 That is to say, if everyone who can be good is attempting to be good, then we need no other plans. If God is real then He will guide us; if not, then our efforts are already in vain. 1y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 0.7 0.7 That is to say, if e (view hidden) log in to judge received 0.7 0.7