in thread "When does a people become "historical"? Can we achieve a Greek-like stance as Nietzsche believed late 19th C. Germans could?": I’ve not yet read the rest of this discussion but OP i don’t really understand from your quotes what you mean by a people becoming “historical”. To situate oneself in history? Anericans have always done that right from winthrop’s speech in 1630. ... 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.4 3.4 I’ve not yet read th (view hidden) log in to judge received 3.4 3.4