in thread "When does a people become "historical"? Can we achieve a Greek-like stance as Nietzsche believed late 19th C. Germans could?": I’ve not yet read the rest of this discussion but OP i don’t really understand from your quotes what you mean by a people becoming “historical”. To situate oneself in history? Anericans have always done that right from winthrop’s speech in 1630. ... 3w ago (collapse hidden) retry 4 4 I’ve not yet read th (view hidden) retry 4 4