in thread "When does a people become "historical"? Can we achieve a Greek-like stance as Nietzsche believed late 19th C. Germans could?": I think we may see cycles of historicity, where a people accumulate historical experience accumulated semantically after a long chain of uninterrupted existence punctuated by social crises such as wars (without generating wide-scale collapse) and rapid tec... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.1 3.1 I think we may see c (view hidden) log in to judge received 3.1 3.1 Continuing the thought you see first sparks of historical thinking in the Greeks with the Persian wars (Herodotus) and then the Peloponnesian war (Thucydides). Most of the interesting cultural productions come around between these two events, with some ove... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.2 2.2 Continuing the thoug (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.2 2.2