in thread "Will future super-intelligence be formatted as selves, or something else?": Not universally, because we built the paradigms involved to be isolated from that, but it's a tangent consideration that is not inconsequential.... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 7.8 7.8 Not universally, bec (view hidden) log in to judge received 7.8 7.8 "without loss" is very vague there, but even in principle perfect (or even just perfect enough) self-representation isn't possible, we're basically restricted to heuristics. But... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.2 5.2 "without loss" is ve (view hidden) log in to judge received 5.2 5.2 These are both ill-defined though, therefore dependent on a formatting and that's how in practice those discussions end up going in semantic circles. That's why I'm more curious about the various syntaxes of self, just my 2c. I also don't agree that it's a... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 1.6 1.6 These are both ill-d (view hidden) log in to judge received 1.6 1.6 It's a bit of convergence and a bit of imposition, evolution does not tend to favor species that leave loose ends, so it's convergence at the evolutionary start, then with time come many fetters to keep the arrangement locked-in. Toxin-antitoxin or addicti... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.8 4.8 It's a bit of conver (view hidden) log in to judge received 4.8 4.8 Best of luck with the epicycles.... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.8 4.8 Best of luck with th (view hidden) log in to judge received 4.8 4.8