in thread "Heart of Darkness": I wish you could say more about why it would be untenable to "secure the borders and ignore." Hey. Why not give it a shot? If it helps, I would argue strenuously that the second part of the job is already done.... 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.4 3.4 I wish you could say (view hidden) log in to judge received 3.4 3.4