in thread "Are aesthetics really primary when seeking converts?": If you have high ambitions to change your polis, this requires young, military-aged men. Bringing these men into a mannerbund through the use of shared symbology and uniform is necessary if insufficient. 1y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.0 3.0 If you have high amb (view hidden) log in to judge received 3.0 3.0