in thread "What form of life does nature consider highest?": I don't think Homeric man is dead. Men out of time, and in the general case beings of higher life within a species, arise with statistical certainty. There have been around 1e11 humans, so you'd expect around 100 historical instances of anyone with a +6 z-... 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 7.5 7.5 I don't think Homeri (view hidden) log in to judge received 7.5 7.5