in thread "Mysterious Answers to Mysterious Questions by Eliezer Yudkowsky": Sorry, not a fan. Yud's essay is just as mystery-bound and incoherent as what it's fighting.... 8mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.6 3.6 Sorry, not a fan. Yu (view hidden) log in to judge received 3.6 3.6 Yeah, sure, Yud gives his own definition of "mysterious." That's kind of bullshit. It's an English word that already has a meaning.... 8mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.1 2.1 Yeah, sure, Yud give (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.1 2.1 It's hard to say because there wasn't a uniform vitalist theory or hypothesis in the late 19th or early 20th century.... 8mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.6 3.6 It's hard to say bec (view hidden) log in to judge received 3.6 3.6 I agree with most of this, but I think we should be careful with language on this topic.... 8mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.6 3.6 I agree with most of (view hidden) log in to judge received 3.6 3.6 You seem to be taking "physicalism" as roughly synonymous with "materialism." I explicitly don't do that. When I speak of the "physical," I'm thinking of Aristotle's phusis, or nature. It's just how things are, which I don't presume to understand in advanc... 8mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.1 2.1 You seem to be takin (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.1 2.1 I agree, but I think this is more a fact about our usual heuristics than a fact about life.... 8mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.0 5.0 I agree, but I think (view hidden) log in to judge received 5.0 5.0 You don't know that. It could be that Gnon did need to create consciousness. It could be that not only do p-zombies not exist, but they could not exist. It could be that whenever you have a being that does all the things humans do, down to a fine-grained l... 8mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 6.5 6.5 You don't know that. (view hidden) log in to judge received 6.5 6.5