in thread "Will future super-intelligence be formatted as selves, or something else?": A massive and sore blind spot of these discussions is taking into account that the human being is no way shape or form an isolated island of agency and, rather than simplistic analogy to cells, we could have much more detailed, concrete, and specific discu... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.4 2.4 2.3 2.3 A massive and sore b (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.4 2.4 2.3 2.3 See, this is your problem. You can't even conceive of collective action or behavior except in reference to a theoretical and abstract individualism. Human civilization is not ill-defined. We can observe it, measure it, track its history, its particular for... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.4 2.4 See, this is your pr (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.4 2.4