in thread "Are aesthetics really primary when seeking converts?": There's an important distinction to be made here (take it from a math major). Guys who do competition math as kids and end up in Math 55 are very odd, whereas guys who crush Calc BC in high school and grit their teeth through 4 years of proofs tend to be m... 1y ago (collapse hidden) retry 7 7 There's an important (view hidden) retry 7 7