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Canada's economy at an inflection. Deep roots of youth unemployment
anon_hwve said in #3433 2w ago:
Good read. It would not surprise me for this rift to accelerate especially with the symbiosis of undocumented underpaid employment and (currently proliferating) Indian hiring practicises.
Good read. It would
anon_vony said in #3440 2w ago:
>>3431
This was depressingly lucid. Canada is fucking toast, in all likelihood it will never recover. Your post is more like a post-mortem. It's consistent with >>2964 in the Canadian context. Brazil to the South, Brazil inside, Brazil to the North. The two most heinous things I saw were the graphs of household income : home price ratios over time, and of net international immigration.
The latter is just the story of straightforward Brazilification, the very same dynamic we've been seeing everywhere else. On the former, the current ratio is very close to 1:9, up from the 1:7 shown at your graph's last figure in 2020. IIRC this was a big part of Poilievre's platform, and he was summarily executed in the election. The only interesting thing I can see happening at this point is the secession of Quebec and maybe Alberta while the rest of the landmass goes full South Africa over the next few decades. May God help you and your countrymen.
This was depressingly lucid. Canada is fucking toast, in all likelihood it will never recover. Your post is more like a post-mortem. It's consistent with >>2964 in the Canadian context. Brazil to the South, Brazil inside, Brazil to the North. The two most heinous things I saw were the graphs of household income : home price ratios over time, and of net international immigration.
The latter is just the story of straightforward Brazilification, the very same dynamic we've been seeing everywhere else. On the former, the current ratio is very close to 1:9, up from the 1:7 shown at your graph's last figure in 2020. IIRC this was a big part of Poilievre's platform, and he was summarily executed in the election. The only interesting thing I can see happening at this point is the secession of Quebec and maybe Alberta while the rest of the landmass goes full South Africa over the next few decades. May God help you and your countrymen.
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This was depressingl
anon_sini said in #3443 2w ago:
>>3440
The thing that depresses me the most is that Canadians seem blissfully unaware. Especially the boomer class (though you get a similar thing with zoomers, who for their part obviously sense the crisis but parse it through a left lib analysis (contradictions of capitalism but ok that's not the main point)), they have a complete disconnect from the dramatic changes we've undergone. I struggle to think of a more complacent population. It doesn't help that our state-chinese-indian Mass Media CBC Network is where most of Canadians get their news from and download their opinions. The population is fundamentally conservative, and our ruling class has realized it can get away with basically anything. With some subtle or not so subtle framing they can stay in power for 15 + years because they'll get the boomer + immigrant vote as long as they stroke their moral egos and "put up a fight to the crazy evangelical Republicans in the south", which is still what the average Republican is in the mind of the Canadian normie. I have urges to go up to people in the street and shake them violently.
The thing that depresses me the most is that Canadians seem blissfully unaware. Especially the boomer class (though you get a similar thing with zoomers, who for their part obviously sense the crisis but parse it through a left lib analysis (contradictions of capitalism but ok that's not the main point)), they have a complete disconnect from the dramatic changes we've undergone. I struggle to think of a more complacent population. It doesn't help that our state-chinese-indian Mass Media CBC Network is where most of Canadians get their news from and download their opinions. The population is fundamentally conservative, and our ruling class has realized it can get away with basically anything. With some subtle or not so subtle framing they can stay in power for 15 + years because they'll get the boomer + immigrant vote as long as they stroke their moral egos and "put up a fight to the crazy evangelical Republicans in the south", which is still what the average Republican is in the mind of the Canadian normie. I have urges to go up to people in the street and shake them violently.
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The thing that depre
anon_vony said in #3445 2w ago:
>>3443
>I have urges to go up to people in the street and shake them violently
In all reality, what is to be done? I'd like to see a follow up post that analyzes the relative merits of various strategies to saw off pieces of the sinking ship and save what can be saved. Je ne suis pas Canadien, but any part of the North American land mass is chock-full of natural resources. How would one radicalize the Bloc Québécois into sovereignty and a program of national defense?
>I have urges to go up to people in the street and shake them violently
In all reality, what is to be done? I'd like to see a follow up post that analyzes the relative merits of various strategies to saw off pieces of the sinking ship and save what can be saved. Je ne suis pas Canadien, but any part of the North American land mass is chock-full of natural resources. How would one radicalize the Bloc Québécois into sovereignty and a program of national defense?
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In all reality, what
anon_sini said in #3448 2w ago:
>>3445
Its a good question, I'd need to think about it. I have never followed Canadian politics closely but there's little hope except for Alberta and Quebec to gain some form of Nationhood ... the rest of the state doesn't exist as a nation in any meaningful sense of the term. The US swooping in to collect whatever remains of the other resource rich territories wouldn't be the worst outcome. I think however US demographics are even worse than Canada's, though has much stronger assimilation, so hard to tell to be honest ... There does seem to be a genuine sovereignty movement growing among the youth, though it is expressed in a left-wing economic redistributionist + nationalization of industries kind of way ... generally leaning multicultural, with Quebec identity expressed solely through the french language. My hunch is that this can change quite rapidly, though since the Quiet Revolution Quebec has spearheaded progressivism. I'll need to mull it over but trying to answer the question "How do we radicalize the Bloc Québécois" is a good project to work on. I'd need to read more on Canadian history and politics.
Its a good question, I'd need to think about it. I have never followed Canadian politics closely but there's little hope except for Alberta and Quebec to gain some form of Nationhood ... the rest of the state doesn't exist as a nation in any meaningful sense of the term. The US swooping in to collect whatever remains of the other resource rich territories wouldn't be the worst outcome. I think however US demographics are even worse than Canada's, though has much stronger assimilation, so hard to tell to be honest ... There does seem to be a genuine sovereignty movement growing among the youth, though it is expressed in a left-wing economic redistributionist + nationalization of industries kind of way ... generally leaning multicultural, with Quebec identity expressed solely through the french language. My hunch is that this can change quite rapidly, though since the Quiet Revolution Quebec has spearheaded progressivism. I'll need to mull it over but trying to answer the question "How do we radicalize the Bloc Québécois" is a good project to work on. I'd need to read more on Canadian history and politics.
Its a good question,