in thread "You got kids, how do you not lose them?": Your goal is misframed. You should want your kids to improve upon your way of life, not simply replicate it. That means they need to recognize it as something valuable but also have room to test its limits.... 1mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 9.2 9.2 Your goal is misfram (view hidden) log in to judge received 9.2 9.2