in thread "The martial art of ideology ": Another model besides the dojo model is classical music performance. You can tell someone's skill level in 10 seconds of playing. Musicians get so insanely skilled at playing their instrument beyond anything I've seen for almost all other skills. They teac... 2y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 7.3 7.3 Another model beside (view hidden) log in to judge received 7.3 7.3