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Ignoring the racism and speaking strictly to the technical point of sofiechan's defenses against a large influx of low quality noobs, the voting system here is entirely designed around that eventuality. Specifically it is designed to enable the incumbent c... 3w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 10.0 10.0

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Should we do that? 3d ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.3 5.3

Should we do that? (view hidden) log in to judge received 5.3 5.3

I agree with this. You may be required to pass an in-person Merit test and phenotype inspection to continue posting here.... 2d ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 11.7 11.7

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The architecture I'm envisioning is this: basically anybody can join the forum. If it gets bad there may be a slight barrier to entry where you have to pass a captcha, pay $5 or prove you're human or something, whatever, but broadly speaking open entry. Th... 2d ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.9 5.9 0.4 0.4

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There are only 16384 two-syllable nyms. There are 128 syllables. When we run out, we will get three syllable nyms. Some day there may be a recycling scheme if we had a way to reap the old ones. But just having them grow is fine too. 2w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.8 3.8

There are only 16384 (view hidden) log in to judge received 3.8 3.8

Yeah the purpose of the latest reply, combined with bump order, is exactly that: to show that there's something you haven't read. Interesting idea customizing it to what you have read. That would be a bigger lift technically, so we'll have to think about i... 2w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.5 3.5

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Interesting. I'm hearing a case for having both 2 and 3 from the OP: Have a separate index catalog with minimalistic focus on showing a bunch of OPs for when you're looking for a particular thread, and then also a firehose feed of the latest posts styled a... 2w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

Interesting. I'm hea (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

Yes I've set all the interesting variables to zero. Similarly, a superconductor sets various interesting variables to zero. Epsilon to zero is just as important as zero to one. But enough snark. Sovereignty is a hard problem beyond all rational engineering... 3w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.1 4.1

Yes I've set all the (view hidden) log in to judge received 4.1 4.1

the backend is non-anonymous. You put in your email, it creates a persistent account that accumulates your reputation. I will at some point make it so identity data is destroyed once the reputation data is accumulated. But with occasional changes to the ar... 2w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

the backend is non-a (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

Thanks for the bug report. We just fixed it. It shouldn't happen again. Our apologies for the inconvenience. 2w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

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Fwiw the sofiechan font, being “sans serif” almost always just means “arial”. Maybe i should make that explicit in the css. I generally think nonstandard fonts are ugly. I like arial. 3w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.2 3.2

Fwiw the sofiechan f (view hidden) log in to judge received 3.2 3.2

It seems the operating system defaults to helvetica for sofiechan in my case. I tried switching it to arial and the differences are extremely minor as they are designed to be metrically compatible. I'll make it explicit. Pretty sure everyone has arial.... 3w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

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The official sofiechan position is that technical discourse is a great filter even for a social or intellectual scene. Technology is a liberal art that sharpens the mind and makes us attuned to truth. I find that nontechnical people have a harder time havi... 3w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.2 5.2

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Well you seemed to have passed our new captcha alright, but you're going to fail the written portion of the test if you're not careful. I'm inclined to accommodate you because I can tell who you are from your writing style and you are a good friend, but yo... 3w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.5 4.5

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Yes, more or less. If a group of posters are only liked by each other, but others don't like them, they will all lose authority eventually to the point of even losing posting privilege. There may be additional vulnerabilities, but I won't speculate for obv... 1y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.0 5.0

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Good post anon. Updooted 1y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.7 4.7 1.4 1.4

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All in good time gentlemen.... 1y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.4 4.4

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you can always bully them anonymously, and are never stuck with nameposting... 1y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

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welcome. don't let the flame go out. 1y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.3 5.3

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Nope. The only difference between "Anonymous" vs "Numbered" is whether your posts are visibly associated with each other in the thread. It's just to make discussion easier between anons, while also allowing you to dodge association with your own posts if y... 14mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.1 4.1

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Thanks. So far so good and i have a lot of ideas for how to improve the taste machine further. The main bottleneck at this point i think is we have to bootstrap a network of good discussion here. Then with scale we will see more clearly the problems requir... 4w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

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I have considered making sofiechan open source. I probably will some day. I have a few hesitations:... 4w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 6.8 6.8

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I should have called this post "the tag apocalypse". We're going to be in tag chaos for a while as the autotagger is fast and opinionated and we're not yet in equilibrium with it, so it's going to do things like rewrite the tags on all posts as it figures ... 4w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.2 5.2

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@dev and I have a little disagreement about the greentext quoted top words. I think they get at the point of the tag in a humorous way that immediately announces what it is (quotes summarizing the essence). It's legitimately useful to be able to see "oh so... 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.0 4.0

@dev and I have a li (view hidden) log in to judge received 4.0 4.0

We're liking it with grey preview style quoted words. Fits better with the style of index pages while still getting the point across. Will probably randomize the selection too. 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.1 5.1

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Yeah i originally was going to use embeddings but all the off the shelf embeddings were confusing and huge, and i failed when i attempted to train one myself. I may revisit but i suspect this keyword system is going to be fine for our purposes. And the spa... 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.0 5.0

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It works! But slow as all hell. Right now we fully rebuild the "taste machine", which now includes this word frequency tagger, about once a minute. That used to do 50 iterations of the expectation-maximization algorithm we use to refine everyone's tastes, ... 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 8.9 8.9

It works! But slow a (view hidden) log in to judge received 8.9 8.9

Can you say a bit more what you mean by “the original thread” and “not able to reply”? Sometimes long threads are closed to comments by new users but there may also be bugs. 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.3 3.3

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I also turned on “op must have an image” and increased reputation required to post a thread to a nonzero level. Happy to hear arguments either way on this but wanted to try out the slight taste and investment test to see how it affects posting. 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.3 5.3 1.4 1.4

I also turned on “op (view hidden) log in to judge received 5.3 5.3 1.4 1.4

Ok I'll bite. Why shouldn't we add a side bar? Not that we have any plans for anything like that, but I have considered it in the past. The current design is driven by necessity and elegance. I don't forsee a need for sidebar type stuff, but I'd love to he... 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.4 3.4

Ok I'll bite. Why sh (view hidden) log in to judge received 3.4 3.4

Wrong thread, but we're big fans of pink obviously, and radial symmetry is cool. It's an eclipse. I've heard all serious modern software companies need such a logo. 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.5 4.5

Wrong thread, but we (view hidden) log in to judge received 4.5 4.5

How are you guys liking the new pronounceable nyms? It's feeling a lot more comfy IMO. A bit goofy but they just work. Curious for feedback. 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.1 5.1

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Yeah it happens. I wish I had a better solution for you. It's been working reliably for most people afaik, and email is tough to get over those final reliability hurdles. Right now we're just using nearlyfreespeech as the provider, but we'll probably have ... 3mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

Yeah it happens. I w (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

what's the value of a shoutbox and would that work for us? Is that just a live chat feed for low-stakes chat comments? I have always found such things to be awkward and gimmicky and have never used them. I think the best platforms have their attentional fo... 3mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

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fwiw, things actually don't fall off the board right now. They fall of the front page. Dig around in the tags and necrobump your favorite finds. I thought about the stuff you said and I'm sympathetic, so I tried a few different solutions and currently have... 3mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

fwiw, things actuall (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

The RSS feed was a different anon who may or may not still be reading/around. We’ve had it for at least 6 months but i never announced it i guess. I dont really get RSS so im not even sure it still works.... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.6 3.6

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I guess we're going to have to build our own newsletter at some point here. Basically there should be an option on the account page to add an email subscription that notifies you of new posts, or best posts weekly, or something like that. Also DMs. When we... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.9 4.9

I guess we're going (view hidden) log in to judge received 4.9 4.9

For what it's worth, "best rated" posts already includes a term for "most discussion from different people" (basically we count unique posters per thread weighted by their reputation), though perhaps we could improve that by putting more weight on it and a... 3mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 6.6 6.6

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Fyi theres no notifications yet so you might miss that you matched or got a dm. Check the “you” page to see dms. 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

Fyi theres no notifi (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

I've already matched with a few people (under multiple names even). Or at least I think it's a few people. Maybe it's just one of you. No way to know. This is fun! I find myself expecting a lot of great content to be posted to the private channels, and opt... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 6.0 6.0

I've already matched (view hidden) log in to judge received 6.0 6.0

Yeah its a bit awkward still. “Follow” is probably the wrong concept, the UI needs an overhaul, and i’m going to add other features that clarify things and reduce need to run around “following” people (eg manual dm requests). Anonymous social net... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.2 4.2

Yeah its a bit awkwa (view hidden) log in to judge received 4.2 4.2

Yes the current implementation of the “eigencommunity” of good posters is closely related to pagerank: your authority as a voter is a function of how much value (positive and negative) you have produced, with value being the revealed opinion (votes and... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 6.0 6.0

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Also, i’m not going to hellban/heavenban everybody. Besides being rather more expensive (several orders of magnitude, naively) than computing a single canonical community perspective, the difference between different possible authorities is not as large ... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.8 4.8

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Well as you noticed yourself, tags are naturally closely related to “simcluster” feeds. Whats the difference between a named feed and a tag page? I think what you’re proposing with respect to the current tag scheme is that users should should perhaps... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.2 4.2

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Yes I've been thinking this. I don't think you even need an LLM. Good old fashioned bag-of-words document embeddings would probably work fine (and be lots more efficient). But also, the tags are going to be populated and maintained by human posters, and th... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.9 5.9

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that's a cool idea. You can post your blog on your own page, but all discussion is inherently public. With likes you're basically going back to the older twitter model of non-algorithmic retweet-like-curation, if I understand correctly. So if I understand,... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.1 4.1

that's a cool idea. (view hidden) log in to judge received 4.1 4.1

Very cool, guys. Let a thousand alt social media flowers bloom. I look forward to seeing your respective attempts. I hope you’ll still want to come visit us here. 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.9 4.9

Very cool, guys. Let (view hidden) log in to judge received 4.9 4.9

yeah good ideas on how to use the nym feature. I look forward to seeing what you guys come up with. Some of it might end up having to be nerfed but for now go wild.... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 6.4 6.4

yeah good ideas on h (view hidden) log in to judge received 6.4 6.4

cool i switched my nym color to pink from that ugly green I had at the cost of revealing myself as admin on one non-admin post that had the good color. Thanks for the idea. I don't think there's any downside to allowing this...... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

cool i switched my n (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

that there is a BUG. On it. 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.3 4.3

that there is a BUG. (view hidden) log in to judge received 4.3 4.3

Fixed the zero bug. De-naming yourself should work properly now. 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

Fixed the zero bug. (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

I don't mean to send a strong signal against namefagging. I built the feature so you could namefag. It was just some mild bullying over the particular choice of name.... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.9 5.9

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I had a good discussion with someone about this earlier today and came to this thought: we should have something like an option to be open to other people requesting follow-back (and thus an open channel of communication). So I follow you and send the requ... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.7 5.7

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Thinking further, there seems to be a tricky combinatorial problem in the match algorithm. What if I like many of your nyms, and then you like one of mine? Which ones match? What if you then like another?... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.9 3.9

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That requires specifying which nym is doing the following in each case, and reduces probability of match drastically. Match takes two user-to-nym follows and produces a nym-to-nym match. One such match can be produced without any complication. It's what to... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.6 3.6

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Interesting points anon. Maybe we don't need any such concept as matching, given dm requests. Maybe it's too tpot. I will think on that. But first, I must present the solution to the matching problem assuming we want matches:... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.3 4.3

Interesting points a (view hidden) log in to judge received 4.3 4.3

Well I got it working on the backend. It finds matches. But we don't have the code yet to actually support notifications or private threads. Nor have I built the manual matching mechanism. This is all going to be monstrously complex. Several hundred lines ... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.9 3.9

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We're going to do a dumb nym-to-nym dm system to cover the cases where there is a clear intention from the users. But also, it will occasionally hit you with something like "nym abc (you) and anon xyz follow each other. You can DM here". The algorithm is a... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.0 5.0

We're going to do a (view hidden) log in to judge received 5.0 5.0

Yeah I'm getting more excited by the matching aspect the more I think about it. As for algorithmic inequality, I don't think I believe that the value of an anonymous board is equality per se. It's rather that you are insulated from third party censure. No ... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.6 4.6

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To be clear, most of the algorithm is already and still what you are calling "rapport". That is of course the backbone of anonymous reputation. But let's talk about an anonymous "mute". What could that mean? We could make it so that you literally just neve... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.6 4.6

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Yeah thats the idea. I just deleted the twitter app because its so overrun with retarded shill bots. I want a social network, even a small one, where we can be quite sure that we are all free men, and not robots or shills. We need some density of good vouc... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

Yeah thats the idea. (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

Just pushed up the first functionality of the follow/mute UI. It doesn't do much yet, just impacts the reputation of the person you're following a bit. Coming soon is the part where we reveal threads with people you follow, and match you with mutuals for d... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

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Added the "you" page for collecting all account-related functionality. It's replaced logout in the header, and that's where logout has moved. It also lists your persistent (named) nyms. I'm not listing all anon nyms because any serious poster will have doz... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

Added the "you" page (view hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

Fixed a major multi-hour outage caused by a logfile permissions mishap. Whoops.... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 7.2 7.2

Fixed a major multi- (view hidden) log in to judge received 7.2 7.2

New taste machine version (the part of the system that determines who has how much authority, and how valuable or offensive posts are considered to be). You will see that the value indicator numbers are now integers counting "votes". It's not quite as simp... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.8 5.8

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Major outage today as I had a subtle concurrency bug that blew up the whole system because of lack of defensive coding somewhere else. Details not that interesting: basically syncing the taste machine wasn't threadsafe but the webserver is multithreaded so... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.3 4.3

Major outage today a (view hidden) log in to judge received 4.3 4.3

Added a "profile page" feature where you can click on a nym and see everything they have posted (under that name) in one place. Right now this is pretty useless because nyms are unique to threads, but as we add ways to interact with nyms (dm, vouch) and ad... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.2 4.2

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You can now name your nyms. If you give two nyms the same name, they will be merged. See how I am now "admin". When posting new threads, you can either use a fresh anon (as previously) or one of your names. As always, you can at any time for any post spin ... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.7 5.7

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If i vouch for both your nyms, the system assumes those are independent signals, so they both count. But there’s a limit to how much we can count even very large numbers of vouches, with strong diminishing returns. I’ll adjust if people start gaming it... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

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Some changes to layout last night. You'll see a unified title block at the top of all pages, tags a little less intrusive, a few other minor changes. Additionally, we can now (on the backend at least) change the name of tags. I've switched them from 4chan ... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

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That is precisely the plan. In fact it is basically already the case. There are only a few minor things left for full integration of the tag system into the advisory voting taste machine. Basically all of you have enough signal to more or less unilaterally... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.0 4.0

That is precisely th (view hidden) log in to judge received 4.0 4.0

Yeah basically this is what i was getting at when saying tags should index content that otherwise isn’t well indexed. The corollary is that it doesnt count towards that tag’s utility if it is duplicative. The vector embedding idea is interesting. We’... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

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Its very important IMO that users be able to define their own “feed” and reason about it. A problem with current social media is that the feed algos are opaque, not something you can reason about and discuss. I want to solve this with the tag system fi... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.0 4.0

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Yeah maybe when you tag something it should appear under that tag for you, with the community default following from the consensus on that.... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.3 3.3

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I don't see the connection. Tags are for organizing the index of threads so we can have multiple conversations going on at once. The thread length limit is so that threads don't get too long to read and navigate. The thread limit might be a bit busted righ... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

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