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I see a lot of people in that thread posting low quality racism and getting hidden for it. I see some misuse of the hide as a downvote (I need to make that hurt more). I see a tall highly competent white American chad (I recognize the writing mannerisms as... 2w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 11.1 11.1

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My guess is that, in these cases, the misuse is more sincere ignorance about the intended use of the feature than bad judgment. The problem may be solvable purely informationally, e.g., a tooltip on hover or an interstitial on selection saying "This featur... 2d ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received

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It's an interesting idea. The key questions are... 7d ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 7.6 7.6

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I'm unsure whether the goal of the house would be to just have a crypto startup with a bunch of jacked frat guys or to actually achieve something spiritually legitimate. 5d ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 0.5 0.5

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Would Germany have de-cartelized its economy and developed an economic system capable of competing with the United States? It’s possible, but the German antipathy towards capital, banking, and dog-eat-dog competition makes it unlikely. That said, if Chin... 2w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 12.7 12.7

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Yeah. And it's not just strictly about carrying capacity at the limits, too. In order to live a good and desirable life, you need space. Because of their geographic and historical circumstances, Germans have always been particularly sensitive to this reali... 6d ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 0.7 0.7

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The problem with liberalism in modern America isn't that Liberalism can't work in principle, it's that historical conditions have evolved such that all the instincts of liberalism are currently being subverted by parasites. This always happens to any order... 2w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 6.9 6.9

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This is correct. A lot more of this is baked in at a deep level than people realize, but at the same time a single great man could see through this destiny and overturn those deep realities. So many more of them than we usually realize are actually customs... 1w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.4 3.4

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The undisputed classic on Liberia, highly recommended if you have not seen it already:... 1w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 8.1 8.1

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The question of American race relations is a good proxy for one of the most urgent fronts of the deep and fatal problems with philosophical egalitarianism and worldwide kumbaya integrationism. It's therefore worth dwelling on it occasionally in concrete de... 1w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

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OP it sounds like you should write a Palladium article on "pressing topics such as H1B visas, industrial policy, literacy rates, [or] population decline." As >>2315 suggests, these things don't grow on trees, and like any magazine Palladium is bottlenecked... 14mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 10.9 10.9

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Well again they were very different types of men and even then they mostly went along with what was fashionable at the time. You could argue that Palladium then is a vehicle to change elite fashions overall and a vehicle for shaping the aspirations of the ... 1w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.4 3.4

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Yeah that would be the idea. You can zoom and pan and such, and then you get a list of posts like the front page but corresponding to what you see on the map. Ideally it would be stable enough that you could basically go back to your familiar corners to fi... 1w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.0 3.0

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Unfortunately not. Take the Daniel Penny case. A clear-cut case of "necessary measures", carried out with a healthy amount of restraint, against a habitual violent criminal with 42 arrests. And still half the country was braying for his head. 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 11.7 11.7

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I hope most men reading this would be able to move just fine through an inner city neighborhood. Situational awareness and knowledge that you can handle yourself, as well as a bit of charisma, should be enough. They should be able to adapt, at least. That'... 2w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.0 5.0

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I've been working out seriously for a decade, natty, and will continue to do so. I think what people forget in the natty vs natural discussions is what the point of all the hard work is. The hard work is important not because of what it gets you, but becau... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 13.3 13.3

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I have studied TRT and as a man in my mid-40s, I would probably do it but for the prostate cancer that most of my male relatives have developed. I've seen one study which showed no effect of TRT on prostate cancer but the sample size was very small and it ... 2w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 1.7 1.7

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I was one who summited. Anon started very strong but rolled the unlucky snake eyes with regards to altitude sickness. I haven't ever gotten it myself, but it looked brutal. Seeing his perseverance from 11000' to 11500' was good inspiration for the remainde... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 13.9 13.9

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Meditation on Mountain Peaks has some great passages that your ascent made me think of:... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 15.0 15.0

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My first time experiencing altitude was when I flew from Lima (sea level) to Cusco, (11,152'). I was fine until I carried my luggage up two flights of stairs. No vomiting, just lightheadedness. Fortunately, with some Coca Tea prepared by my hostess, I rall... 2w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.5 5.5

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Broader Western aesthetic decline is an separate question.... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 17.9 17.9

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I've been enjoying the "greco futurism" work from Peniche. He should post more of that here. It's high tech, humanistic, warm, aspirational, luxury, grand, western, traditional, archeofuturistic. I agree we've got to kill cyberpunk. It's just dystopian and... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 16.8 16.8

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There is a large capability gap between Africa and South Asia. South Asia, for all of its issues, has capable subpopulations that have organized complex civilizations for thousands of years. India has a functioning space program.... 3mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 10.4 10.4

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Here's a lens to understand the Heart of Darkness more clearly. Look at the new "Alliance of Sahel States" with Russian and Chinese backing. All three countries, Burkina Faso, Mali, and Niger have explosive birthrates and rock-bottom GDP. So what do we see... 3w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 9.3 9.3 0.9 0.9

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A perfect question for this board. Deeply important, completely taboo to talk about honestly.... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 9.4 9.4

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I'm attaching a chart of factors associated with with reproductive success.... 4w ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 0.5 0.5

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Living in a nice neighborhood, in the richest and most powerful country on Earth, owning your own house, with a stable comfortable job and a happy family is "a mouth full of glass"? You should interrogate yourself as to why that grates you.... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 14.1 14.1 0.6 0.6

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To answer your question directly: of course a Männerbund is composed of stable men.... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 15.7 15.7

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part of it, I believe, is because below the upper strata of society this model is degenerating quickly. They are indeed "islands" of prosperity ala Latin America.... 1mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 0.4 0.4

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what is the research on this? is this just epigenetics? 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 0.4 0.4

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I take Gnon to be the highest level pattern implicit in the laws of physics, but not practically derivable from them.... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 11.1 11.1

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As I mentioned in the other thread a serious worldview must be backed by more than mere assertion. On what basis and to what extent is group self-interest a valid principle? If we're not caring to actually back this up and enforce worldview rigor around an... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 11.1 11.1

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As one further provocation to discussion here, and because it thinks through the problem better than I have, a short example of applied Gnon theology was penned by Land as well called “Trichotomocracy”:... 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

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I'm writing a longer article about this but my basic analysis is that the EAs have one big virtue they are fairly unique on: they treat money as a strategic resource to be disposed of rapidly for effective impact, whereas everyone else treats money like a ... 2y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 12.8 12.8

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Some good stuff here on the ideological and intellectual content of Effective Altruism, and how that package fit the zeitgeist. That's half the story.... 2y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 13.0 13.0

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It's a bit of a chicken-and-the-egg situation. The quality of ideas does matter, but the ideas can adapt and change as long as the initial nucleus of the movement holds together and remains high-quality. Historical EA for example was very good at attractin... 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.8 2.8

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Just a note: DMs are created from mutual vouches on nyms themselves, not posts. So if you are in Austin and want to DM Adam (you should, this is a great move), vouch his nym itself. 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 9.0 9.0

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Bumping as I've started https://machinetools.club/ and we're meeting Nov 19th starting at 6: https://partiful.com/e/QnV9m5dzosZnGnl5dHOK 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 1.6 1.6

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My natural inclination is to touch grass but my immediate goal is to generate enormous amounts of income. The commercial world is at this point in time far removed from anything representing, or serving, nature. Is it then a surprise that one would want to... 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 1.3 1.3

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The California Forever project town is supposedly going to be a base for an automated stoneworking factory that will provide the material to cheaply and efficiently build a downtown of Parisian aesthetic quality. They've been making good progress so far, b... 2mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.7 3.7

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Fixing the RSS feed is a good idea. RSS is one of the simplest protocols on the web and has stood the test of time. The rest of this is deep subterranean triple chin neckbeardery. This is not the Linux Kernel Mailing List, it's a message board.... 3mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 6.2 6.2

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Yup. Landian techno-nihilism is interesting and fun for us big brain people to think and theorycel and chat about, but ultimately it's not prescriptive, so its usefulness is limited.... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 15.2 15.2

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Fair enough. The "self-evident" vs "leap of faith" debate is missing the point. The real thing is our disagreement about whether the instincts need any higher framework of justification. I see where you are coming from and I agree that the instincts causal... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 13.9 13.9

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Speaking of global singleton antichrists of total control that prevent growth, our favorite Croatian philosopher raises an interesting solution to the problem posed by Thiel: https://x.com/mmjukic/status/1979159947888763299 3mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.8 4.8

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A number of this site's frequent posters, myself included, are trying to fix the institutions that govern us and revive our society. This requires political organization based on Truth, not just collecting a bunch of Truths and then leaning back in your ar... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 12.6 12.6

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I’m reading Kanbunmyaku(漢文脈) by Mareshi Saito (齋藤 希史) in translation. It is an exploration of what Prof. Saito calls the “literary sinitic context” or kanbunmyaku.... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.1 2.1

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I don’t doubt there were insane people on the darkest corners of the web who said terrible things at every point of internet history, and to the extent they can be persecuted for encouraging violence, they should be.... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.3 3.3

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I’m skeptical of the “obvious” list. Unless "online discussion groups" counts, these lists don't represent a distinct tradition. I'm tired of seeing scraps of disparate canons taped up together. It seems like these recommendations, separated from any... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 10.3 10.3

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"Western ideology … might be summed up in the belief that "Truth unfolds in time through a communal process."... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.4 4.4

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Using an app like X is only really dangerous if you use it passively, taking the algorithmic content stream as a "natural" representation of what is salient on the website as a whole.... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 7.8 7.8

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Interesting, who the mentats are?... 4mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.2 3.2

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As a heuristic, any decision that seems binary (should I hide) is mis-framed. The question is, what is the skillful way to live in full integrity?... 1y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 12.0 12.0

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I am of course deliberately invoking the *chan tradition by using such language. It’s a choice. When i write or speak in other contexts, i hide that particular power level. But it does not reveal all.... 1y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 11.6 11.6

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I read a few chapters of Evola's Revolt Against the Modern World and he talks of traditionalist leaders being imbued with the spirit of the other world in their rites and actions.... 5mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received

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There can be surplus intellect, but in that case there's been a misallocation of resources and thus the system in toto isn't as intelligent as it could be. I agree that certain sub-spheres of Anglo thought have cultivated a kind of silly mystery cult of in... 9mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 7.6 7.6

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I'm reading BAP's recent post on China and America's stumbling about as it considers reindustrializing. In the below section BAP talks about the strength, albeit complicated, that grows out of our financial markets and reserve currency status. In short: ta... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.4 2.4

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Very much agree with this perspective. However insightful the essay is, I think the author is ghey. While not overly important I do think it clouds his judgement in terms of the importance of the erotic dimension of male bonding.... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 13.3 13.3

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Pretty sure homoerotic behavior (whether involving actual sex or not) does not contribute to, but poisons and degrades, male groups and friendships.... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 15.0 15.0

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Men used to form friendships through hunting, building, fighting, and working together—activities that were necessary for survival and building anything meaningful. You trusted other men because your livelihood depended on it. Sure, some abused that trus... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.4 2.4 0.1 0.1

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SpaceX has an internal ERP system called Warp Speed. From the people I know who work there, it is a significant part of what makes the company work as well as it does.... 8mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 11.3 11.3

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You cannot profess a heresy without upsetting the believers. There is no clever phrasing where you deny their tenets but disclaim it in a way that makes them feel fine.... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 14.7 14.7

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Yeah if we're doing politics, we're going to need a good and honest party line. What's the party line on race relations? I dunno let's figure it out here.... 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 15.2 15.2

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Yeah I know what Nietzsche tried to claim all this stuff was real, but he was wrong. Ultimately slave morality and master morality are just ideologies. Any other explanation of them isn't compatible with actual observation. 6mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.6 3.6

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This is really interesting. Struggle is the principle that creates life, health, and truth, and it has justice to it. I have not heard of this so I will have to go read it. Is there a good english translation you recommend? Looks like archive has the germa... 2y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 10.4 10.4

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Could you send some of your favorite R/ACC essays or discussions on "agonistic inamic unity"? It seems highly relevant and historically fascinating, but I can't find much online apart from the foundational book which is an academic tome. 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 5.2 5.2

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This format is worse than useless: "the solution is to simply <thing that will never happen>". It leads to blackpilling and learned helplessness.... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 13.3 13.3

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I think you are wrong about the relative power of substrate and software to determine what work gets done. I think the real answer to invest in children is the fact that you have a headstart on determining their memes (and gene-meme coevolution will no dou... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 0.8 0.8

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We've had two years of intellectual development since the inception of this thread by the monosyllabic-nym old ones, so I want to pose a central question I had while reading. Cognitive separatism is necessary, we are actively doing it, it is starting to wo... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 12.2 12.2

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Is this just wishful thinking? Can we do some historical analysis and verify that the just falling out reliably happens? And if so, over what timescale? How long must we trust the plan?... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 4.6 4.6

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Nice provocation. I agree that mass speciation is inevitable, but the timescales do matter if we’re talking about this as an engineering problem. Which we should. I offer the example of Oymyakon, where the average winter temperature is around -50f. It is... 8mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 15.8 15.8

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Take it one step further. Why bipedal fleshy animals at all?... 8mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 11.7 11.7

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For a long time, I found the robot progeny idea inevitable yet distasteful. I now find it inevitable and aesthetically pleasing. Your characterization of bodiless-ness as the ultimate body is powerful.... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.8 2.8

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Precisely. LKW also masterfully stayed within the unwritten limits, thereby cementing his impact and legacy.... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 14.8 14.8

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We know what BAP means by "the right of the stronger and better" just like we know what Sam Hyde means by "real Americans", but that doesn't make it coherent. I'll apply that same distinction I used in >>3385 between the truth and the political formulas he... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 16.7 16.7

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“And guess what, the US/WEF consensus generally regards him as a hero. This is completely load-bearing--it's why Singapore is well integrated into the Western world, which is the only way for a modern small state to be prosperous and reasonably sovereign... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 3.1 3.1

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The high reputation poster is a bore and a lout of the highest order. As his reputation trends upwards the amount of information conveyed per post trends to zero. “On this topic the Socratics has this to say—” I can barely stomach this already. See h... 2y ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 11.0 11.0 0.2 0.2

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Thanks. So far so good and i have a lot of ideas for how to improve the taste machine further. The main bottleneck at this point i think is we have to bootstrap a network of good discussion here. Then with scale we will see more clearly the problems requir... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 2.9 2.9

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You should check out THE ART AND THOUGHT OF HERACLITUS by Kahn. Lots of commentary on Heraclitus filters his fragments through Aristotle and other later philosopher's interpretation. Kahn attempts a purely textual exegesis which attempts to reconstruct Her... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 12.2 12.2

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These resources are all very good — thank you to everyone who's replied. I think given the tenor so far we should just turn this into a spergathon of posting the best Greek resources. Please continue with hidden gems, forbidden texts, and generally the m... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 11.2 11.2

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Slight update on our mission statement, some clarifications and an attempt at formalized rigor.... 8mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 13.8 13.8

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Yeah, this is a totally fair point, and I think a lot of the "effective accerationsists" push this argument so far as to invalidate their entire worldview.... 7mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 1.7 1.7

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I think the dopamine binky shortform video crowd is a write off and should be ignored. Writing, specifically essays and forums, remains the most powerful technology for serious socially transformative thought ever invented. We should double down on the wri... 8mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 12.5 12.5

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This 100%, but also I actually do not want to know what sofiechan is. Is any decent social media platform definable? Its indescribability is what lets it hold power over us. Magic is not defined; it is ingraspable.... 8mo ago (collapse hidden) log in to judge received 9.3 9.3

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